April Report….

SUBMITTED APRIL 2017
by Go4Gold

 

To Whom it may have the greatest interest:

This is an accumulation of various communications I’ve been having and am using it to share where I’m at in the hunt.  The major portion was to Jenny Kile.

My name is Ricky Blair.  I’m living in Albuquerque, NM and am new to the Fenn Treasure.  I caught the Expedition Unknown episode back in November (I think Nov) and started working the poem, reading the various website material that Jenny and Dal have put together over the years and after researching through January, I came up with Location A and Location B.

On Feburary 11 my sister and I drove to the A location as Expedition 1 and began our search.  Within the first hour we found a “BLAZE”.  It was not understood what it was, what it was but it was something that someone did on purpose so we took a look around to get acquainted with the neighborhood but because we weren’t prepared to do more than a day trip, we took videos and stills and hiked around some and then drove back to ABQ to process the data.

When I charted the “BLAZE” on a white board and after a couple of considerations, I realized that it was a “creation” that portrayed the topography of what you see when standing in front of the “BLAZE”… now that is too much of a coincidence.  That someone would take the time to “make” this image of what you see is beyond my understanding unless Fenn did it to point the way to the treasure and the more I read the poem and studied the topography, the more I found (I’m convinced) I hit the target with beginner’s luck.  Using the clues below, I have a 100 percent accuracy so far.  See what you think.

As I have gone alone in there

And with my treasures bold,

I can keep my secret where,

And hint of riches new and old.

I took this first stanza as his Store in New Mexico “riches new and old” and it all being very personal to Fenn and thus the first clue.  Specifically, Santa Fe, New Mexico

Begin it where warm waters halt

And take it in the canyon down,

Not far, but too far to walk.

Put in below the home of Brown.

Here is where I think I use some creative thinking and “put in below the home of Brown” was the key.  I call it clue 2.  Just because he used “BEGIN IT where the warm waters halt”, he sends you to a canyon and it’s too far to walk so you have to take a vehicle to get to the “canyon down”.  When I realized what the home of Brown meant, I found a suitable canyon nearby I now call clue number 3 and an association with a NM Hot Springs (clue 4) wasn’t far away but “too far to walk”.  “Too far to walk” was clue 5.  So there was a possible SOLVE for the second stanza.

From there it’s no place for the meek,

The end is ever drawing nigh;

There’ll be no paddle up your creek,

Just heavy loads and water high.

The next stanza was dead ON !!  From the areas that you can park a car without it being in danger and you would trust it to be there when you got back from the adventure, there was a ravine and “no place for the meek” (clue 6).  I’m still working on the “end is ever drawing nigh” but it seems just a needed rhyme for “water high”.  I have looked into the horse lingo of Yup and Neigh as Right and Left but it’s been said that Fenn uses the correct words so I may take the spelling of nigh does not mean “LEFT” but word usage to get in the poem’s rhythm and to symbolize that one was getting close.  “There’ll be no paddle up your creek” was right on because its normally a dry river bed when you get down there and is clue number 7.  “Just heavy loads and water high” was just what you see around you… Large ass boulders and a water high MARK on the canyon walls.  Again, clue 8 and 9 were right there…

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,

Look quickly down, your quest to cease,

But tarry scant with marvel gaze,

Just take the chest and go in peace.

Here is where speculation is all you have to work with and the reason I’m not holding the treasure now.  It says that “if you’ve been wise and found the blaze, look quickly down, your quest to cease” has to be the full line.  I originally thought I found the BLAZE but one can’t be sure without knowing what you are looking for and I hunted closer to this BLAZE during Expedition 2.  My philosophy has been that the BLAZE is “to BLAZE a trail to the Treasure.”  But I also think it takes at least 2, preferably 3 data points to BLAZE a trail.  Just one is a sign post… but little detail.  A 2nd Marker gives you distance and direction and a 3rd gives you a real trail to follow. So what I think I found February 11 was the “Trailhead”.  I think I found the 2nd marker on Sunday this week but it was late in the afternoon on the last hunt day (of course) so I have to make Expedition 4 on April 1st.  So I’m saying I think I stood in front of a Trailhead that points the way using the topography you see in the background which lead me to possibly the second marker.  I have my opinion on what the second marker “says” but I won’t know until I go back up.  Coincidentally the second marker is right under the “water high” mark so it flows just like the poem.

So why is it that I must go

And leave my trove for all to seek?

The answers I already know,

I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak.

Now this stanza definitely doesn’t have a clue here.  I think it was sentimental stated and nothing more.

So hear me all and listen good,

Your effort will be worth the cold.

If you are brave and in the wood

I give you title to the gold.

Same here.  Conclusion to the poem but no clues I can see and I’ve basically accounted for the 9 clues and feel I hit the target there.  I have a funny feeling that “in the wood” is just saying “in Forrest’s head”.  (Forest/Wood… get it?)  Bravery is symbolized in spending your money, time and effort to find the Treasure, “I give you title to the gold”.  Done.

Expedition 2 starts with me spending the first 3 days searching and digging just below (“look quickly down”) the BLAZE that I now think is the Trailhead but you don’t know until you look, right?  I even found a perfect rock ledge that would be the best spot to slide in the treasure, cover it with sticks and rocks and pine needles and let it freeze up in winter, AND I even got a major hit from my metal detector.  OMG was I excited.  It was frozen over so for two evenings I would run my propane heater under a blanket to soften the ice and when it was uncovered, it was just an old tin can so far back it had to have been put there in the ICE age.  I have the can and the pictures to prove it.  I even broke my military shovel handle trying to get it out.  But the can looks nice on my mantle as my treasure hunting memento.  I realized after I went home that the “water high” mark was where I should have been looking.  (That was then my focus during Expedition 3.)

It was a 7 day event so I continued looking and hunting and I recorded on video all the hikes so that I could review them while lying in bed at home.  Expedition 2 gathered more information but no addition glory in search of the treasure.

Expedition 3 was Friday, Saturday and Sunday 3/12 last week with thoughts of hunting Monday but I was beat from the first 3 days.  So Monday I felt I needed to go to Area B just to see its possibilities.  I had not been there yet because Location A was so perfect.  When I finally got there Monday afternoon, it was a totally different look and feel.  Nothing on the poem seemed to be there.  It was all private land with Keep Out signs and fencing everywhere.  Lots of little homesteads and driveways.  No canyon that was accessible by the general public and no “heavy loads and water high” could be seen from public access… so I count it out as a treasure location.  Location A is on State Land and can never be bought or sold or bulldozed so I think I got that covered also.  Location B just confirmed my first attempt and Location A as my search area.  And “No”, that doesn’t usually happen to me and frankly I’m shocked.  My personality is one that if I pick left, it’s right or any 50/50 chance I’m 90 percent wrong.  So I usually gamble by placing a little money on my pick and have someone else put a little more money on the opposite and that actually sustains my gambling technique.  So I keep pinching myself to think I hit the right location the first time.  Best part, no one is looking here.  There was no evidence that anyone had ever been there searching.  I left totems for the gods as proof I was there and hope it appeases them so they give up the treasure on my next outing.

Looking at the additional clues:

Cheat Sheet

What we are taking as fact:
♦Located above 5,000 ft and below 10,200 ft.  Just for the hell of it, I took the mean of the two numbers at 5200 divided by 2 and added 5000 to it to come up with 7600 as the possible elevation.  Why would Fenn say 10,200? Just 10,000 would be enough or 11,000 if that wasn’t important.  So where I’ve been looking is between 7400 and 7700.  Right on my target.  Location B was all over 8000 in contrast so this is what made Location A primary.  It wasn’t something Fenn said, it was just an oddity I worked to explain.
♦At least 8.25 miles North of Santa Fe, New Mexico This was obvious to me and hunters say it’s because Fenn didn’t want people digging up his back yard.  I heard someplace less credible that his father’s and mother’s graves were dug up.  Well in my trips to Location A, I found that 8.25 (north of the Santa Fe City Limits) is the cutoff to Los Alamos and fits with my Location B.  I can see where it would give hunters additional areas to consider if they were looking in New Mexico and keep them from digging up Santa Fe.  I didn’t pick my A spot just because of this, a possible hint but I am north of Santa Fe and that’s on target.  It did give me a reason that B location might be plausible should A not be.
♦Not in grave yard  Check
♦Not in out house…..not associated with a structure  Check
♦Not in a mine  Check
♦Where warm waters halt is not a dam.  Check

Subjective information:
♦Don’t go where an eighty year old man couldn’t go.   I can walk the area in about an hour and return for water and food.  I slept in my camper and walked the area twice each day, once in the morning, once just before dark.  It was better flashlight effort when there wasn’t the sun glaring my vision (also the camera’s) If I put the treasure at a specific spot, it would be fairly easy in my Location A.  I found that if I walked up the rim of the canyon, that I could drop down into the canyon with ease.  I didn’t have to crawl over ever boulder or around every tree. I do realize that it would be a bitch in winter as the little walk down area was steep and if ice and snow was present it would be a “no-go” especially carrying my treasure (being hopeful).  I understand that Fenn did the hide in December so I ruled out that he used the rim and came in the “backside” of the canyon to deliver the cargo that way.
♦Not associated with a structure  Check

Fenn has said:
♦ There are nine clues in the poem.  Check

♦ Start at beginning… That’s New Mexico or Fenn could not have done the trip in an afternoon from his home without someone else knowing.  I can make the same round trip from Santa Fe in 5 hours in my old camper truck.  If I had a car that did the speed limit then it would be less.  Now the oddity of that is where do the Trailhead and “Markers” come in.  Did he do them before or after hiding the treasure… different day?  different season?  Hide the treasure and then come back and work on the Markers?  That’s my guess.  I look at the intricate nature of expressing what you see in the background took some time.  Someone artistic made it in maybe under an hour?  And when you know where you are hiding treasure the time is direct.  Let’s say the line “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, Look quickly down, your quest to cease” suggests that you find another Marker, Marker 3 the final BLAZE, you look right down… that you basically are standing on it and I know that Marker 2 was not in a position to be the final Marker.  Since I didn’t understand what it was telling me, I looked all around and the point below the Marker was just higher than the river bed, and I don’t think Fenn would place it where it would be damaged by the elements so there is going to be one more Marker.  It took time setting this up and I don’t know that I could accomplish the same tasks alone myself in one afternoon.  My thoughts anyway.
♦ Clues in consecutive order.  I agree from what I’ve seen at Location A.  If you follow the topography against the poem, they are 100 percent accurate.  Still, stanza 2 is questionable but I got pointed to this location that has all these oddities and it’s way far coincidental !.
♦ Don’t mess with my poem.  With the exception of stanza 2 I tried to keep it straight.

“Some of the searchers have been within 500 feet I know”. If you are just on the road passing by, it could be 500 feet to the treasure.  In fact, its been marked off by measuring tape and paint markers so I hope around 500 feet is accurate or more accurate.  I’m working the area now and the 2nd Marker is about that distance so I think the final marker is within a few feet.  I’ll know more April 1.

“Searchers have been within 200 feet”. Huffpost interview 02/04/15 If a hunter has been in the “canyon down” then I agree, they were very close.
♦ “The person who finds the treasure will have studied the poem over and over, and thought, and analyzed and moved with confidence. Nothing about it will be accidental”.  I’m not one to challenge this because it’s what I’ve done but Fenn didn’t take into consideration that hiding the treasure is so different from hunting for one.  Take a pin and put it in a haystack and then describe where you put it.  Describe it OR draw a picture.  It still takes a huge amount of effort, time, money, contemplation (and a magnet) to find the pin.
“All of the information you need to find the treasure is in the poem.”  If this is the case, then I’m still saying I’m right on target.
♦ Q: Were both trips made on the same day/date? “I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.f” And I agree as pointed out above.  So on target here.
♦ Q: Are you willing to say whether the place of the treasure chest is the same as the one where you had previously plotted to have your bones rest forever? “Yes it is. f”  I can say that I might not want to be buried there but spreading my ashes there would be amazing.
“There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure.f”.  Confirmed.  There are no trails, no civilization except the occasional piece of trash.  There appears to be 4 wheeler trails that someone has been on, just off the rim of the canyon some but I disassociate them from the hunt.
♦ Q: Is the Blaze one single object? “In a word – Yes” I also agree.  Even when you have 3 to 1000 markers, the BLAZE is only a single object.  The BLAZED TRAIL is just one item.  In the use of “in a word”, he’s justifying that even if it is 1000 different sign posts, it’s only one BLAZE.  I gave you my opinion earlier and I still stick with it that it takes 2 or more markers to point a trail.
♦ Q: I would like to know if the blaze can be found during the day without a flashlight. “I would say yes.f” I agree.  I found the Trailhead at 11am on February 11th.  I found what I’m calling the 2nd marker at sunset on Sunday 12th,
♦ Q: Did the same 9 clues exist when you were a kid and to your estimation will they still exist in 100 years and 1000 years? “The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years but the geography probably will change before we reach the next millennia.”  This is ambiguous.  Did the “heavy loads” and “water high” exist when Fenn was a kid?  Well, yeah.  They are millions of years in the making.  Was the road there and the parking spot?  No, they did not exist.  And would they be there in 100 years?  Should there not be an act of god, yes, they will be there in 100 years.  But should there be a major fire?  Obviously important information on trees would be destroyed.  Even a boulder with subtle clues on it could carbon up, break up from intense heat… water could destroy markings, topple trees and move boulders.  As it is, the Location A is well within the realm of Fenn’s statements.  If everything is equal, what I see at Location A will be here 100 years from now.

 

Anyway, that’s my SOLVE so far.  It is a pleasure.  Happy Hunting !!

Happy Hunting

Ricky Blair
Albuquerque, NM
Go4Gold@aol.com

37 thoughts on “April Report….

    • I concur Jake. Ricky, everyone has their own fix on the T.C. so take what is said as with a grain of salt.
      Just one thing and I’m finished. Forrest Fenn has said “If I tell you who Brown is you’d go right to the chest , and you said you have that as clue #2.”
      SLOW DOWN!!! you sound like you are willing to search in the books, blogs, scrapbooks, and so so much more. This is no race, the lucky one will have to be thinking and analyze everything.
      Best of luck and be safe out there…
      Timothy…IMHO

    • Thanks for the share it is so easy to think your on target untill you prove to your self one way or the other be safe we have no way to know if Forrest was still flying his plain around at that time.my point is the car used could of been rented or not the warm water is the place to start maybe but the fun is out there so dont give up. even after years our brains have a way of tricking us into believing we are on the right track. i think we will all agree to this fact. thanks for the read i enjoyed your excitement.

    • Well you sure don’t know where to go thats for sure .

      Rickey great fun . Hope you keep searching brother.

  1. Looks like you had a great time, Ricky. I think my heart would have skipped a beat if I heard the metal detector go off. Although it may not have been the treasure chest, you certainly found a treasure to put a smile on your face each time you look at it.

  2. Ricky I like how you tried to mentally go through all the checklists of his provided information. You’re a logic hound 😛

  3. Ricky,
    That’s a pretty compelling solve. I wish you luck. For me, the Carson Forest looks like the area you may be writing about. Good luck!

  4. Nice story, Ricky Blair. I live in Rio Rancho. We both are very fortunate to live so close to our search areas. It sounds like you had a great adventure and will continue to be part of Fenn’s Chase. Welcome to the Madness! Thanks for sharing your story.

    • Cynthia. Are you able to treasure hunt, be self financed? If you are I would like to invite you on the next expedition. We didn’t find the treasure but we did find another marker and the hunt goes on. Let me know if you would like to be a part of the next Expedition. It is my handle at aol dot com R….

  5. I find your logic interesting. I am a cartographer by degree but haven’t used my skills in years. I will head west this summer if time allows as I have a spot I would like to check out myself.
    I find this whole hunt quite fun. And I think that is the intent. So thanks to the author for putting a little thrill in our chase. And good luck to those on the hunt but try and not get gold fever it defeats the intent.

  6. Go4theGold ~ “I understand that Fenn did the hide in December”
    If you want a serious response to your post, read on. If not, stop here.
    While others give a pat on the back logic, thought out, compelling solve etc. I’m just wondering how much time you put in with the after the fact [ after the release date of the book. ]… I have never heard of fenn hiding the chest in winter {Dec}, in fact, he recently stated summer was the time. {fenn answers to the school kids SB}
    There are many other parts I like to hit on, Tools, metal detector etc. or If you knew hoB etc. and the many comments about the “blaze” but it would be better for you to look them up yourself… I suggest you take more time and do a lot more reviewing to update some of your thoughts and ideas…that might help give pause to some of what you have thought about so far.
    Like fenn hiding the chest in the month of December.

    That is my best pat on the back I can give… hope it helps.

    • My bad, after I posted I recalled the Q&A was in Forrest gets mail section, not a SB;

      Q~Could you also tell was time of year you hid the treasure?
      A~Yes, it was summer.

      • Thank you so much !! I missed that one and took someone’s word about the winter quote. Then it fits right in with my SOLVE… as he could have walked an easier way.

  7. Ricky,
    Overall you are thinking very well with your solve and I like what you have done. Your “between 5000 and 10,200 ft average of 7600 ft is an interesting observation. I only want to comment on a few items.

    You said, “I understand that Fenn did the hide in December so I ruled out that he used the rim and came in the “backside” of the canyon to deliver the cargo that way.”

    I have not heard Forest hid the treasure in December.

    You said, “Start at beginning… That’s New Mexico or Fenn could not have done the trip in an afternoon from his home without someone else knowing.”

    I do not believe he said he hid it in one afternoon from his home. I believe he said he made two trips to the hiding spot from his car. Big difference.

      • No problem.
        The more insight a searcher can get from others may help with repeating possible mistakes… Another one, yet I can say Gold’s thinking is completely wrong on this…
        Q~”Is the blaze a single object?”
        A~”in a word, yes.

        Depending on how one reads this, Go4Gold has three ‘objects’ at different point spread out over a large area… I would think he/she might reconsider the thought… then again… it might be consider an object, if one thinks markers along a single trail constitutes “one trail” as the blaze { but to me, that is not an object as much as a place }.

        There are 7 years of comments, Q&A’s, interviews etc. 4gold to utilize…

    • Thank you… well that was an observation on my part I suppose. If it’s not his HOME or his SHOP it was still in New Mexico. Carry gold to another State is possible but in one’s mind it should be near his heart. I also deduced the trip up from Santa Fe to the treasure location was done in an afternoon also. He said he went from the car twice to hide the treasure and he did that in an afternoon which you can ride up, hide the treasure and ride back in an afternoon from his home or office. My personal belief anyway
      Go4Gold

  8. I made mention of this two years ago, but as far as I know, no one caught the reference:

    10,200 feet has a very specific, important meaning to Forrest. As an aside, it also has a very specific, though slightly different, equally important meaning to me. And the first time I read it, I knew exactly what it meant. Now, that may not be the reason Forrest chose that elevation, but it is, statistically, of great value ..

    Brad

  9. With Forrest’s post today and now this, I’m going to have to take to some time to study.

    Dal, you are one busy dude. My hats off to you as usual.

    • Pinatubocharlie,

      are you going to study the poem and ttotc book?

      IMO…studying anything more than that may cloud a persons thought process.

      Good Luck

      • Rick,

        I was actually referring to the April Report because I find I can always learn from others. Something I outright missed or failed to see the connection even though it’s there in plain sight. I just find it helpful.

        It’s just that this one is very long and I’m still working on the historical Fenn Tsunami of Easter week 2017.

        And then I had a whacky thought today that I need to spend time exploring before heading out on my first search. A lot to do.

    • 100 percent accuracy in the Poem to this point. The treasure is next. I have not offered Expedition 4’s results to Dal yet. He will post it later and there are things I have not yet spoken of. Please don’t think I’ve told you everything. I’ve been honest in my report, just have not mentioned every detail until the treasure is in my hands. Thank you for the support !! Go4Gold

      • g4g-
        You are making things up…constantly!!
        You don’t know that I will post your next report. I certainly will not if you are not more accurate in the next report than you were in this one.

        I do not intend to allow you to spread rumors so you better make darn certain your quotes are accurate and you do not boast that you are 100% accurate until you can prove it with a 42lb chest in your hands.

        Until then, this solution is your opinion…mere speculation…a try…an attempt…entertainment…
        no more accurate than the other solutions posted here…

        • Ok… my apologies. I thought I was being accurate. Dal you’ve seen my report for the Expedition 4. But you are right, I will now hold my tongue until I have the treasure in hand. Thank you all. Go4Gold

  10. Thanx for sharing Go4Gold. (If I say out loud your handle, it might sound like gopher gold – and from there my mind wanders.)

    Good luck!

  11. I think every searcher had that “I’m 100% accurate!” moment. Then, it fizzles out when the area doesn’t produce a treasure.
    Please don’t say, “Someone found it!” as the reason your solve isn’t correct!
    Up to this very moment, all of our ideas/solves are 100% opinion. And you know what they say about ‘opinions’…they are like belly buttons and most of them stink! (Not mine, it smells like roses! Lol)
    So, IMO, Indulgence is still out there, and it’s going to take an unemployed redneck to find it!
    Be safe
    ¥Peace ¥

  12. If the treasure is hidden right at a trailhead, why would Forrest make such a point that he went to the hiding spot twice in one afternoon? That would be like me saying that I ate two whole jelly beans in one sitting.

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