112 thoughts on “Looking in Colorado…

  1. Please folks, dont attempt to take a “box store” inflateable raft in the Arkansas R. during the spring or early summer. Imo,
    FORREST DID NOT use a raft in hiding
    Indulgence. Above 600 cfs flow the Arkansas can be deadly for wading. Trust me, I had a temp job working for USGS water resources, and was in the Ark. far more than I liked.

  2. ps… look at it this way, from Minneapolis to New Orleans, the Mississippi R. only drops an av. of 0.68 ft/mi. From Buena Vista, Co. to Can(y)on City, the Arkansas drops 32.1 f/mi.
    (3 stories).

  3. Colorado is close enough for Fenn to drive there and back in one day.
    Colorado is the least mentioned search state in Fenn’s stories.
    Driving through Colorado is the only sensible route from Temple to Yellowstone.
    In SB 101 Fenn said: “I thought some small college in Colorado would give me an honorary PhD in Anthropology or Physiology. But they didn’t.”
    Fenn’s response to a Colorado residents E-mail: “I agree that you are in an ideal location from which to search for the treasure.”
    Fenn’s comment after Paris Wallace’s death: “No one knows the dangers that lurk in the mountains more than those living in Colorado.”
    And Preston’s infamous line about Fenn leaving his car in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.
    Just some of my observations…
    -Randawg.

    • Also in SB 107 Colorado is the only search state that appears on the back of a $5 bill.
      “He Who Teaches a Child Labors with God in His Workshop.” is inscribed over the east door of Kepner Hall at the University of Northern Colorado.

      Interesting that UNC was originally founded to train teachers for public schools and was called “Colorado State Teachers College” until 1935.

      • Our current governor misinterpreted Colorado’s Headwater State status to claim once (on-air) that all rivers in Colorado start in Colorado; no river starts in another state and runs into Colorado.

        Which is nearly true – except for the Green River, which is a pretty big exception.

        Jake

    • Colorado = red = red herring = smoked kipper = fishy smell = stinks = not there!

      (With apologies to all Colorado searchers, and only in my frequently screwed-up opinion!)

      • Why add “herring?” why not apple, or cherry, or brick, or blood, or rover, or cards, or beard, or robin, or Baron, or tailed fox, or some other Red…?

    • I have to admit that Colorado is my favorite search state, but I don’t know exactly why. Maybe it is the mystique and lore of Colorado as the epitome of what we know as the Rocky Mts of the United States, or maybe it is in part because I live in southern Arizona, and WY and MT are so damn hard to get to from here. Of course NM is closer, but there’s so little territory to explore between Santa Fe and the CO border, and much of it is on Tribal lands or private land grants.

      I have searched one location in WY (Fenn Creek, can you believe it??), three locations in CO, and one location in NM (with no success of course in any). My research has produced about 13 HOB’s in the Rockies of CO. Now that might not seem like a large number, but bear in mind that these are not obscure references in some book or metaphorical concepts, but rather places found on published maps. By comparison I found 8 places in MT, 8 places in WY, and only one in northern NM.

      I have made a map of the Colorado Rocky Mts (including a small slice of extreme southern WY and far northern NM) with all these HOB’s, as well as other information related to elevation, land ownership, and important drainage divides/passes. The map also shows locations of some published solves which I am aware of. I made this for my own use but am willing to share it if there is enough interest out there.

      So let me know, all you Searchers paying attention to this site. Does this appeal to anyone’s interest?

    • Don’t feel alone. I also found more than one of the same home of Brown places you refer to in my own personal research. As to whether any of these are crucial to the Search I can’t answer at this point, but would not discount this possibility.

      • Your a kind person McK for doing this. Im not searching in CO, but maybe something will click for another.

        Good luck to us!

  4. I love Colorado. There is a direct flight into Denver from where I live. Why Colorado though? Im still devoted to Wyoming. Hopelessly devoted….

  5. I spent 7 days looking in southwestern Colorado the week of Thanksgiving, so Yes Virginia there is a SC, I mean TC in Colorado.

  6. Mr wife and I were seriously considering moving to Colorado to get away from the Pac NW rain and be close to my big bro. It’s a lovely state, but common sense prevailed as we knew we’d eventually be drawn to move back because of our children, which soon proved true because our granddaughter Emma was borne a few years later and is now the joy of our lives.

    Pinatubocharlie

  7. There are many clues that lead me to Colorado. Although I have searched places in Northern NM and Montana as well. There are 2 places in Colorado that I’ve searched. Definately clues that appear relevant at both places. I feel that I am missing something, that I am right there. I’ve been tired, weak and in the wood every time…

    Good luck everyone.

  8. Go ahead, rub my nose it, but I deserve it. LOL.

    Like many others, sometimes I really hate spell check. So to correct my pathetic blunder, I meant to say “my”.

    Pinatubocharlie

  9. Just dropped TTOTC and Wyoming atlas off to my father in Wyoming with my notes…meanwhile I’ll be covering the multitudes of search starting points here in Colorado and New Mexico. Happy to have my father in on the hunt with me!

    Stay wild!
    LoLo

  10. good luck to all who search the Colorado rockies but do remember the safety of it dress warm. winters can be harsh in a moment here there are a lot of bushes to look under here as a native of colo please be wiseand stay safe

  11. McKendree,
    Your map sounds interesting. I have no doubt that my HOB is not on your map. At least I’d be shocked if it were, of course. I’d like to take an appreciated look at your map… abq new key @ hot mail .com. Just get rid of all of those spaces. IMO, my solve is complete minus having the chest in my posession. Don’t count her out, glad to see that Amy is still in the game ! Oh yeah, almost forgot,.. I subscribe to this thread, not many others though.

  12. To anyone requesting me to email them my Colorado Treasure Map:

    My plan is to post the map on this blog site, with a short explanation. If this does not work out, or if the map is not readable because of its detail and scale, I might consider emailing it to individuals (as long as there are not hundreds of requests). I’m not sure anything of this nature has ever been put on one of the Search blog sites. It would be an experiment. Maybe Dal can weigh in with his opinion?

    McKendree

    • McKendree, Sounds like you have put a lot of time and talent into this offer and I would love to see what you produced. How can someone request a copy? I suspect that you are correct in that the, “map is not readable because of its detail and scale,” and that prohibiting Dal’s site from posting it and doing it justice. How can I take advantage of your generous offer and order a copy from you? Thanks!

      • Send me your email address. I have so far heard from three other persons with requests for the map. Please realize that this is only a preliminary map for review and comments, not a final product. It is a form of beta testing to see if it is useful and how it could be improved.

        • I’m very interested in seeing (and of course sharing comments and data on) your map, McKendree.

          All of my real searching has been in the Colorado River drainage part of the search area (waters that eventually reach the Grand Canyon, from the Green River WY to the San Juan NM, and all the waters on the Colorado west slope).

          Jake
          cahoskia*gmail.com

          * = @

        • McKendree, That was very kind of you to offer to share your creation. I often wondered how someone could produce such a complex work of art. If you would send it to: exec dir @ unit edchris tians .us it will be forwarded to me (trust you know that without all the extra spaces in the email address, this blog will not allow this posting). I would appreciate that very much and would be happy to provide any feedback you desire on the beta version. Thanks, again!

  13. Colomtnman, I am not the one distributing the map. I am not the maker of the map. I only requested to view said map. You can relay your email to McKendree.

  14. 53 mountains in Colorado are over 14,000 ft in elevation, if we could effectively flatten those out, it would be a state bigger than Texas…

    I feel Colorado is definitely in the mix of where/how to find Indulgence, ff mentioned that we need to look at the big picture, that is a very big picture, perfectly framed by its 4 borders, the only question I have about that elevation is his telling us that the TC sits between 5,000′ and 10,200′ in elevation, and its near a mountain top?

    So just to level the playing field what mountain top of those 53
    14 ers has a unique place near its summit that might be 5K to 10.2K ?

    Logic is sometimes lost in our imagination but I am going out on a ledge or use some common knowlege here and state that IF indulgence is near one of those beautiful giants of the Rockies Range it will be a very close plateau or ridge with some safe approaches?, but no human trail nearby?, sounds like a calm place and must have an approach where an 80 year old or your grandkids could walk safely?

    Any Ideas? Garden of the Gods get’s two thumbs up for it’s name, Glenwood and Browns Canyon too… but you Colorado people know your state better than me, all I ever do is ski there and use to Kayak some when I was not fishing… since you live there and I live in NM. Talk me through the terrain.

    TT

    • Tom,

      I’m working on CO, too. Gaining a “comprehensive knowledge of geography ” during the winter months. I live half time in Santa Fe, half time in Massachusetts and just spent the weekend exploring the southwestern corner of CO.

    • Hi, Tom Terrific. If the Colorado 14ers are a possibility in your solve, there is no better resource than the website 14ers.com. Lots of route descriptions and trip reports with photos posted and it’s all organized per individual peaks.

    • TT – Mt Evans and Pikes Peak both have driving access to the peaks…easy walk IMO. As for areas less than 10K’ elevation, that is typically below treeline in most of CO, a look at any topo will show that the area increases quickly as you come down from any peak, so you’ll likely need a lot more specifics/other clue linkages to get anywhere (imo). Given FF’s statement about ’79/80 yo wouldn’t go up and down a canyon twice’ (paraphrasing) I think it unlikely he’d be climbing mountains…and 96% of 14ers require 1 way hikes longer than 2 miles (and most trails starting above 8K). Now, I’m not trying to say a 14er can’t play into a solve in some way, just IMO I don’t think the final spot is near one. You also might want to look up how many peaks there are above 12K’…again, better have some very good linkages to pinpoint an area IMO. Good luck, good to keep thinking on new things during the winter.

  15. I think it is in Colorado. I can’t get there till early summer besides it is even cold here in oklahoma. No point tromping around in snow where I am going……definitely not wading in the freezing water. . I saw that meet up post but I can’t plan out that far.

  16. Ok, I’m going to chime in here. I’m a Colorado native and have spent alot of time in the mountains and canyons of this state. Please, people keep your head square on your shoulders out here, as beautiful as it is, it’s dangerous too. Phones don’t always work, weather moves quickly, temps can go from 50s to below freezing in less than an hour. If you plan on going out, tell people where you are going, when you will be back and stick to it. Don’t change your plan without telling anyone.
    You can’t find the treasure if your injured or dead.
    Just remember, stop and ask yourself, could an 80 year old man do this?

  17. Our map of Colorado from 1896 arrived today. I’m surprised how many more names there are on this map vs more modern ones. Good representations of all the Railroads at the time.

  18. Lucky you.I’ve been looking at those rr maps on line. Hard to see. Specifics. What would be even cooler is an old trail map and not just the main ones.

  19. Speaking of maps I have the following paper ones from back when I used to run around there. I do not need them besides I won’t revisit these places as they make me sad as that was back when my husband was alive. If your a hiker or need them for the search let me know. Some are in good condition some not so much.
    I have the following: 7 USGS 7.5 min quads : Cheesman Lake, Farnum Peak, Cripple Creek north, ,Como,, Dakan mt, McCurdy mt, Cripple Creek South
    2 National Geographic Trails Map:
    Pikes Peak Canyon city and Tarryall Mrs Keosha Pass
    3 BLM maps:
    Gunnison, Leadville and Bailey
    Don’t want money just trade for a cool ball cap, xl t-shirt or something simple from where your from. But take them all.
    If your interested email me at Amanda.Jimenez@EarthLink.net

  20. Blower 8″ Big Pow day at Loveland yesterday and more overnight. Whiteout most of day but lower elevations mostly clear. SW CO in major drought and searching will be good. Bears haven’t hibernated in Durango this year so don’t go down no dark alleys!

  21. How kind of you to search an area for someone else who is unable to. I hope the snow doesn’t impact your search area’s. If it does, just remember until the TC is found, there’s always tomorrow! Good luck with your hunt.

    • We’ve searched for others several times so far. I really like it as we wind up in paces I would have never thought to go to. Also learning what snafus and probs one can run into, which helps me in mine, as well.

  22. What I have found is that I’m more impeded by large metal bars closing areas off than I am by any snow or ice. That was definitely the case this week! Grrr….

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