Forrest sent me this without a comment.
What do you think??
Forrest sent me this without a comment.
What do you think??
I love emails like this one from Diane. Makes me wish I could go back to the starting place and experience all of the things I might have done, but didn’t.
I have a technicolor picture of me running through the brambles with Diane.
It is comforting that the treasures chest thread has brought so many of us together in a kindred way. I feel like I know that girl who played with hobos. f
My grandfather was a train engineer. He used to do a big train whistle out of town so my grandmother could hear to let him know he was on the way, and she’d tell me to take off running. I would run like the dickens through the bramble, and meet his train on the edge of Lewistown, Mt., and he would stop it to a complete halt, then let me on, and I got to drive the train all the way through Lewistown, Mt., then I would hop off, with the train building steam and run back to grandma’s house. Never fell once. I remember the train would slow down slow, then come to a complete halt like how I think warm waters halt.
One of my favorite things to do is go in to town and have lunch with the “young hobos” who hop the trains out of Colorado Springs. My Sunday hobo church. They grab food from people coming out of the cafes and eat it up like morsels form heaven. Took me only a day to adjust to their routine. They are brilliant poets, just like Forrest. A few are banjo players, and they are peaceful, but not for the meek. They are totally free to ride the rails to the next adventure, and I live vicariously through them, as I also love the rails.
I’m new to the chase, and am having fun studying my stacks of maps, and the poem, and I giggle a lot when I wonder- “What would Bubba do?”
Thank you Karen,
I will try to answer the questions for your students. I received about 30 emails and was a little overwhelmed. That’s why I didn’t respond to more than I did. My answers follow the student’s questions and are in bold type.
I can see by the first question that your students probably are not asking what they want answered. I will answer the questions as presented and not judge them. I will also leave your students with a poem. It is not a reflection on anyone, or the questions, but something for them to think about.
Today as I went up the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there. He wasn’t there again today, oh how I wish he’d go away.
Can you describe the first and last time you visited your secret fishing spot?
Yes, I went in my car both times and the sun was shining.
Also you said gold. In the canyon we are guessing the sunset make the rock look like gold is this significant to the place where you hid the treasure.
I am sure the rock would think so.
Does the 4 line in each stanza have a significance to when you hid the treasure.
Would you please give us a list of all your friends/superiors in the Vietnam war?
There are several hundred. Would you like the names alphabetical?
Could you also tell was time of year you hid the treasure?
Yes, it was summer.
We have a guess about where the treasure is hidden, and we were wondering if you could give us some feedback on it.
Yes, I think I could.
We believe that the treasure is hidden near agua fria peak, New Mexico.
I think that is very interesting.
Our group also thinks if it is not hidden there, then it might be hidden some where near Cimarron canyon.
The canyon is very long so if you go searching there please be prepared.
Our final guess is that the treasure may be along road 156 in Wyoming. Thank you for taking time out of your day to help us in our class!
You cannot solve the problem by starting in the middle of the poem. You should start with the first clue and then solve the other eight in order.
What is your favorite thing about the place where you hid the treasure?
It is in a place that is dear to me.
When was the first time you went to the place where you hid the treasure?
I don’t want to answer that question. It is more of a clue than I want to give.
What is your favorite outside activity?
When was the last time you went to the place with the treasure was hidden?
A few years ago.
Did you name the poem The Thrill of the Chase?
No. I forgot to name it.
Were you close to your father?
I think I was closer in my memory of him than in practice.
Does Bighorn Canyon,WY ring any bells in your past?
Or does Black Canyon,CO ring any bells?
What do you mean by “ringing bells”
What is the emphasis of “where warm waters halt”?
I don’t understand the question.
What does “warm” mean to you?
It means being comfortable.
Where did you mostly go during your lifetime?
Europe, Asia, South America, and the United States.
When did you find this spot to bury the treasure like year?
I have not said that I buried it, and I don’t want to reveal when I discovered the spot. It is too much of a clue.
Does a blaze mean the treasure?
Not in my dictionary.
Why did you hide the treasure where you hid it?
I love the way you worded that question. I think you are going to be a science fiction writer. The answer is in my book, TTOTC.
What inspired your passion for art?
I have no passion for art. It was only a business to me.
Who was your biggest influence growing up?
My father and my football coach.
Why did you choose the specific riches in the treasure?
Because I needed them to put in the treasure chest.
Have you ever revisited the place you hid it?
How did the Vietnam War affect you?
It made me more forgiving, more considerate, and more aware that we need to leave other people alone.
What time of year did you hid the treasure?
Is there is specific reason that halt and walk are the only words that do not follow the rhyme scheme?
Yes, I was limited by my ability.
What is your favorite place to be? or river?
In my home in Santa Fe.
Where was your favorite place? Why?
Why don’t you ask me how deep is a hole? I cannot single out one to be my favorite.
Why did you marry?
Because I was able to find a woman who was much better than me, and then spent 63 years hoping she wouldn’t find out.
What is “too far to walk” to you?
It is the name of a book I wrote.
Who were your partners in the Air Force?
I had no partners sir.
When you wrote the poem, were you thinking about fishing
No, I was thinking about the poem.
What was your favorite Hike/Trail Yellowstone.?
Trails are not favorites of mine. I always hiked off trails. Why go where everyone else had gone. The rangers didn’t like that, but I did and I was the one doing it. Do you see my logic?
Did it lead to the top of a waterfall?
Some did but most didn’t.
Where did you catch the Fish that you still have a memory.
If so, why do you remember that memory?
Because a 900 pound bear also wanted it. Guess who won?
What type of fish did you like fishing for?
Trout, bass, perch and catfish.
What Is Blaze?
Anything that stands out.
How hard was it to write the poem and not give the location away?
It was not hard at all. I just had to stay focused.
In the poem, Thrill of The Chase when you talk about “Not far, but too far to walk” and “Take it in the canyon down,” is it referring to a waterfall.
You guys seem to be hung up on waterfalls. Don’t try to change my poem to fit your ideas.
We were also wondering if you could tell us anything about “The home of the Brown.
“Do you “check” on the treasure every once in awhile to see if it is still in tact.
Do you mean as opposed to being torn apart? I feel sure it is still intact.
And does anyone know for sure where it is, for example, your wife, or closest friend?
No one knows where it is but me.
We are looking into places in New Mexico and we are curious if we are in the right direction.
Go back to the poem and start with the first clue.
When was the last time you have been to where the treasure is hidden?
A few years ago.
Hello Mr. Fenn!
My name’s Kenda. Had a strange thing happen the other day –involves you oddly enough
I watched Destination Unknown “Finding Fenn’s Treasure” on 1/13, Friday evening
I’m a paranormal researcher, I record ghost voices… been doing it on a regular basis for 10 years now.
Saturday morning -5 am EST, (3 am your time) I did a recording session. A voice that sounds an awful lot like you is speaking on it. It’s not unusual for sleeping people to show up on recording, happens pretty regularly…no rhyme or reason to it actually.
Here’s what “sleeping you” said, “IT’S A GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT TO ME THAT MY OWN FAMILY HAVEN’T FOUND IT.”
“TAOS… IT WOULD BE BALD WITHOUT THIS” “DON’T YOU KIDS READ?”
Now, I don’t speak at all during the “answer” parts of the recording, only when asking questions.
Vocally, I’m 99.999% sure it’s you; got the accent, cadence, everything!
Just thought you might find it interesting –I definitely do
I did a video of it if you’d like to hear it — (incidentally, I was asking about the existence of Bigfoot at the time –“You” suggested I STOP asking about it considering “THEY COULD BE FROM THE PRIMATE FAMILY” )
Here’s the link to the video…
FORREST FENN (Pure EVP) Sleeping Forrest Messages
I am a professional poker player living in Las Vegas… im 44 years old and I came to Vegas when I was 19 to pursue a career in playing Blackjack… (not such a good idea btw) and have been here ever since. I received your book for Christmas (never heard about your story) and I will be trading in gambling on cards for gambling in the wilderness. Should be fun.
I recently purchased 10 books and have decided I need 10 partners and figured the best way to find 10 people I can trust* was to send it off to 10 inmates serving life sentences… figured they have the time and won’t be looking themselves😀😀.
I chose 9 men and 1 woman. I’m thinking my best shot is the Unibomer Ted Kaczynski.. as he is a pretty brilliant guy and also lived in Montana for a number of years… I have 1 question, Has anyone ever told you they were doing this also?
Hope this finds you well,
Forrest answering questions in email from a journalist in Arizona. You may have heard some or all of these Q/A before…but worth repeating.
Why did you hide a treasure? You need to read my Thrill of the Chase book wherein that question is answered in some detail
What’s in this treasure box? That question is also answered in my book, but the quick answer is: 265 gold coins, mostly American double eagles and eagles. Hundreds of gold nuggets, two the size of hen eggs, hundreds of rubies, 8 emeralds, 2 Ceylon sapphires, many diamonds, 2 ancient Chinese jade carvings, a 2,000 year old Sinu and Tairona necklace, Pre-Columbian gold bracelets and fetishes, and more.
Do you believe the treasure it still buried or have any of the people who claim to have found it actually found it? I have never said it was buried. I said it was hidden. Many have claimed to have found it, but none could provide evidence. It is still hidden.
Of course, he (my editor) has no idea that no one — besides you, I guess — knows where the treasure is. It is not that easy. It is not easy, but it is not impossible.
Having said that, if you were me — an enterprising reporter interested in following a trail to your treasure — where would you suggest I go? I suggest you go to my poem in the book and read it a few times. All of the necessary clues are there.
Is this hidden spot near your home? I don’t know how close near is. To an ant a mud puddle can be an ocean.
Is it in New Mexico, even? Not talking about that.
Is it dangerous for a hiker to set out looking for the treasure alone? A hiker should never go into the mountains or the wilderness alone. It is not in a treacherous place.
In this email from Forrest to a journalist in Italy, Forrest answers some questions you may have been wondering about yourself.
Are there signs that people are getting closer to solving your puzzle? How many clues have people solved now?
Searchers have come within about 200 feet. Some may have solved the first four clues, but I am not certain.
You have told people to stay at home unless they have solved the first clue.
If you don’t know where you are going any trail will take you there.
Do expect that people will somehow *know* for sure once they have found the first clue?
No, many people have found the first clue but they didn’t know it. Until someone finds the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.
Or they might have found it without realizing it?
Is it an advantage to buy The Thrill of the Chase and Too Far to Walk?
There are hints in my TTOTC book that can help solve the clues in the poem.
We don’t have sagebrush here. Is it a nice smell or a strange smell? Does it smell like the herb?
Sagebrush has a nice aroma that lasts a long time if you take a cutting home and let it dry. I used to put twigs in letters to clients hoping the smell will remind them, and lure them back to my art gallery. Please tell Italy hello. I love your country and its people.
In this email from Forrest to a fact-checker for a Outside Magazine, Forrest answers some questions you may have been wondering about yourself. The story is in the September 2015 issue and not all these “facts” made it into the final story. You can find the finished story by Peter Frick-Wright on the Media Coverage Page of this blog.
How old were you when you were a fly-fishing guide? Where was that?
I was about 13 and it was in and around Yellowstone Park.
How old will you be on August 15? What year were you born?
I will be 85 on August 22, 2015. I was born in 1930.
How old were you and what year did you join the Air Force?
I was 20 and I joined the AF on 6 Sept. 1950.
What happened the second time you were shot down in Vietnam? How were you rescued?
I ejected from my burning F-100 near the DMZ in Laos. I was rescued by a helicopter the next day, which was 21 Dec. 1968.
When were you discharged from the Air Force, and when did you move to Santa Fe?
I retired from the AF at the end of September 1970 and moved to Santa Fe in the summer of 1972.
When and how did your father pass away?
My father had terminal pancreas cancer and was given 6 months to live. He refused to take any pills for pain, and eighteen months later he took 50 sleeping pills. He died on 8 Feb, 1987.
Can you explain your first plan for the treasure, before your cancer went into remission? How did your disease impact the plan for the treasure? And why and when did you start it up again?
I don’t know what you mean by “first plan.” When I was told that I had a 20% chance of living 3 years I decided to take some of my things with me. My plan was to let my body go back to the earth at the place where I hid the treasure. When my cancer went into remission I decided to hide the treasure anyway.
How many people would you estimate have gone out looking for the treasure?
Based on the number of emails I have received I estimate that by the end of this summer (summer of 2015) 100,000 people will have been out searching.
Have you narrowed the search area for the treasure?
Yes, I said the treasure is hidden in the Rocky Mountains at least 8 miles north of Santa Fe, excluding Utah, Idaho, and Canada. I have said it is above 5000’ and below 10,200.
You told P* that, considering some of the lengths people have gone searching for the treasure, your story has turned into a monster.
I did not expect the story to get as big as it has, nor did I expect a few searchers to go to such great lengths in the hunt.
You’ve said repeatedly that the treasure isn’t in a dangerous place, and searchers shouldn’t look anywhere you couldn’t have gone.
That is true. There is no percentage in searching where a 79, or 80 year old man could not carry the treasure.
This is the seventh installment of the ways in which searchers…and others…communicate with Forrest and visa versa. You may have read one or two of these elsewhere. I think there is useful information in these notes…
As in the previous email pages, the notes both to and from Forrest have sometimes been edited for brevity’s sake. Names have been changed, but the humor and confusion have been left intact…
How would you like to receive a few hundred of these in a day?…
Will you talk to someone that solved your poem before they go get it.And by talk I mean explain why there but they would tell you where since your memory is fading Forrest Fenn
My memory is fading so fast I don’t remember what you said. Can you tell me again please. f
Dear Mr. Fenn,
How are you Sir? My adventure to seek the hidden treasure will begin very soon. Before I begin my adventure, I have two questions for you. How will the location of the treasure chest remain a secret if it’s also your final resting place? One cannot take one to the resting place if one has passed. Can one find the general location of the treasure just by studying the poem and reading your books without ever been to the Rocky’s?
Looking forward to your wise response. Thank you.
You underestimate me sir. f
Can I email you where treasure is? I know.
Yes, but why don’t you just go get it and then we can talk? f
How often do you check it? I’ll be going to the destination to claim the elusive prize on Wednesday. I’m leaving here in the morning and should be there before sunset. Please be sure to check your mail before retiring for the night on Wednesday. Please mark my words. On Wednesday everyone can cease their searches. It will be done.
How fast do you plan to drive sir? Please fasten your seatbelt securely. f
My brother and I have recently begun our search for your treasure. We
believe we know where it is, but we are nervous to look as we believe it
would be illegal to dig here. Im assuming that might be why its no place for
the meak 🙂 What would you say if we said it was buried somewhere under this
square of dirt?:
I wouldn’t say anything Mitch. f
(This response from Forrest was to a woman who planned to ask me to accompany her on her search in bear country.)
If you want Dal to accompany you on your search in griz country you should contact him directly. But beware for three reasons:
1. He’s a coward when it comes to sacrificing his life for two beautiful women.
2. He suffers from grizzlitis, which is incurable.
3. He can out run you.
Good luck in the hunt. f
I will find your treasure or die trying.
Where would you like me to send flowers? f
If I might be so bold as to humbly implore your aid. I am pursuing direction with regard to a certain work. If you would be able to assist, guide, or direct me with the following question, I would be forever temporally grateful.
Question: When the “Sun” and the “Moon” are in their prime, does one join them in the “secret fire of the sages” or under the external influence of Vulcan?
Thank you for being forever temporally grateful. Both the sun and moon are past their prime so I think your soomonna should be allocated with mykanther riggens to effect maximum alkabate, otherwise the third sedentary might implure your aggrabate. What do you think? f
I would like to know how you came into your wealth, and how you find the
time to write books. People’s stories are always interesting and inspiring
to me, and I’d very much like to hear your story – provided you have time to
share it with me!
I was successful because I took the time to sit down for a few minutes each day and think. Try that and see if it will work for you. f
(This is a question from a TV reporter who’s story already aired. The day after it’s airing she followed up with an important question about information she got wrong in the story.}
I should have asked yesterday: have you said the treasure is buried in New Mexico?
I have never said the treasure was buried, I said it was hidden, I didn’t want to give that as a clue. I have not said it was in New Mexico. I only said it was in the Rocky Mountains north of Santa Fe. f
I am a very meek person not to mention out of shape. I will always muster all the strenght and courage I have in order to go in there. to be honest I am scared to death. But it is part of the solution so I have no choice but to do it to get your treasure chest.
Please don’t look for the treasure in a place where a 79 or 80 year old man could not have hidden it. Be safe please. f
sr if it wouldn’t be to much to ask could you tell me what month you hid it so when I go the water is gone thank you for your time
I don’t remember what year it was, much less the month. Sorry. f
I Solved the riddle, And do not know whom to contact.
Contact your banker and the IRS. f
Forrest recently answered a few questions from a reporter and shares his answers with us here.
Yes, numerous people saw the treasure before I hid it. One is Douglas Preston, who is a writer who has been #1 on the NYT best seller list.
The treasure includes 265 gold coins, mostly American eagles and double eagles, hundreds of gold nuggets, some as large as chicken eggs, ancient Chinese carved jade figures, Pre-Columbian gold animal artifacts, lots of rubies, emeralds, sapphires, and diamonds, and other things.
There are 9 clues in a poem that is in my book, The Thrill of the Chase, and I gave a few clues on the Today Show.
I would describe myself as a retired fighter pilot who was shot down twice in Vietnam where I experienced one of life’s great lessons. I talk about that in my book. It is fair to say I am a millionaire although I would not dwell on that.