San Antonio Hot Springs…



My best friend of almost 40 years, who just got interested in Fenn’s treasure hunt earlier this year, has been vacationing in Albuquerque for a couple months…he knew I’ve been an avid Fenn-fan and boots-on-the-ground treasure hunter for the past couple years, and suggested we put our heads together, figure this thing out, and go on a treasure hunt before his return home to Pennsylvania in a couple weeks…this is our story.

Even though Tom is fairly new to the search, like myself when I started, he read everything on Dal’s blog…I imagine it took weeks this late in the game. We both agreed there are tremendous solutions by many tenacious searchers on Dal’s blog, and we used some of those solutions and ideas with a few unusual twists to create our search area that we hoped would put us at a unique location…thus allowing us to find the treasure.

Forrest’s favorite activities when he was a boy were fly-fishing, collecting arrow heads, and swimming in the warm river waters of Yellowstone National Park…making his “special places” mostly in and around YNP.

…so we pondered…what area in New Mexico compares to it?

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The most likely is the Valles Caldera… a 15-mile wide volcanic caldera in the Jemez Mountains of northern New Mexico, where hot springs, streams, bogs, and volcanic domes dot the caldera floor, with some of the best fly-fishing in the state…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Forrest may have spent quiet days here fly-fishing back in the day when this area was privately owned by the Dunigans and searching for arrowheads or soaking  in the various hot springs…a “special place” for those seeking solitude and serenity while enjoying the peacefulness and extraordinary beauty of this fisherman’s paradise…this was our start… “as I have gone alone in there”.

Unfortunately, this sprawling ranch was later sold to the government, and in the year 2000 became the Valles Caldera National Preserve. In mid-July I tried to search Alamo Bog and Canyon there, only to find out there are many restrictions and that most of the preserve is off-limits to the public…so we had to think outside-the-box. Our WWWH was the Caldera Ring Fracture inside the preserve, but just outside this ring is the preserve boundary, and just down the canyon from it, lies San Antonio Hot Springs…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Despite the 5-mile drive back a horribly rutted dirt road that only a 4-wd vehicle could tolerate, these hot springs seem to be quite popular…they are easily accessible after a short half mile hike from the parking area and a short climb up the hillside…we did take pictures of the hot springs and the perfectly contented people soaking there, but there was so much nudity there aren’t any pictures we can use on this blog…No matter, though, as this is not the special place we think Forrest hid his treasure as it is too public and there is a trail to it…we needed to find a hot spring nearby but not on a map…maybe a smaller one about 500 ft from this place, with no human trail in close proximity…our search had begun.

San Antonio Creek flows from inside the Valles Caldera (our WWWH), down the canyon (And take it in the canyon down) and is accessible by driving there (Not far, but too far to walk).

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There is an old cabin (built by the CCC in the 1930s) at the bottom of the hillside, about 500 ft from the trailhead that leads to the Hot Springs…could this be ff’s home of Brown? Forrest previously stated that “the hidden treasure is not associated with any structure”. Did he also mean that none of the clues are associated with a structure as well..hmmm. Despite being vandalized over the years, it still stands proud and sturdy among the tall pine trees surrounding it…”Put in below the home of Brown” resonated in my head…what if Forrest “put in” a clue “below” it, something like a “drawing”. After all, the poem states: “From there it’s no place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh;” Even though this seemed unlikely, I had to satisfy my curiosity and peek  into the dark, dank crawl space beneath the cabin…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

As I brushed away the spider webs and rodent feces to gain access to this little window of a spot, I held my breath and realized this was definitely “no place for the meek”…

Not surprisingly, I couldn’t find anything helpful in our quest…so we moved on with our search.  We made the easy climb up the hillside to the hot springs and chatted briefly with the folks soaking in the hot water, oblivious of our cameras and non-caring of our story of Fenn’s hidden treasure.

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

We moved further up the hillside and searched the base of the towering rock face above us, looking for shallow caves hidden by the pine trees, and peering inside those that we found, only to be find emptiness…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

I used binoculars to scour the cliffs on both sides of this little valley,  looking for the blaze to point us to the right spot…but could find none. In my earlier searches, I thought the blaze might be a trail, but not since Forrest answered “in a word-yes’, after being asked “Is the blaze one single object?” We needed to find a white streak in the cliffs, or a giant petroglyph pointing us to the trove…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Continuing on, we hiked through the tall grass up along San Antonio Creek to where the power lines that began at the CCC cabin took a 90 degree turn to cross the ridge, looking for a hidden hot spring up the hillside, a spot special to Forrest, one that he would always consider to be his alone. This was our “There’ll be no paddle up your creek, Just heavy loads and water high.” As we moved along the creek, we knelt down and felt the water in each of the little streams that trickled down from above, until we found one with warm water…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

Excited, we bushwacked our way up the hillside, through the trees to its source, only to find the warm water seeping out of the ground beneath a pile of boulders, with its opening hidden by tall ferns and reeds of grass…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

…once again, I swept the spider webs from the entrance and peered in…large enough for the treasure chest but not big enough for Forrest to lie down beside it…besides, we were looking for a pleasant hot pool of water for soaking, not a foul-smelling hole in the rocks…disappointed, we continued on.

After searching for several hours in this area, we called it a day…a bit disappointed but not discouraged…

Hunting for Forrest Fenn's Treasure

as I am already planning the next search! (Our double omegas…signifying the end of this search…the Gilman tunnels along the road before it joins SR 4.)

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Tom, my friend and photographer for this search…who took most of these magnificent photos.

As I have gone alone in thereValles Caldera 

And with my treasures bold, … Forrest and his trove

I can keep my secret where, … a secluded spot only he knows of

And hint of riches new and old. … old riches were the arrow heads he found, new riches are inside his treasure trove

Begin it where warm waters halt  … the Caldera Ring Fracture just inside the Valles Caldera boundary where the warm water seeps up through the ground and halts, forming several bogs.

And take it in the canyon down, … San Diego Canyon down to San Antonio Hot Springs

Not far, but too far to walk.from hwy 120 drive north using FR376, which gets you within half a mile of our San Antonio Hot Springs search area. (our entire search area is around 8400 ft in elevation)

Put in below the home of Brown.the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps) cabin built in the 1930s which is just down the hillside from San Antonio Hot Springs

From there it’s no place for the meek,look below (beneath) the home of Brown cabin, like in a crawl space or basement…this will be creepy and not for the meek.

The end is ever drawing nigh;maybe there is a “drawing” or clue to follow to find the blaze

There’ll be no paddle up your creek,follow San Antonio Creek upstream, but look for the blaze in or along the cliff behind the hot springs area.

Just heavy loads and water high.could be referencing the hot springs themselves, or a waterfall area if one can be found. Followed the power lines (heavy loads)along the creek until the lines took a 90 degree turn and crossed the ridge…located a stream with warm water that trickled into the creek. Bush-wacked our way up the hillside to the source (water high), hoping to find a secluded pool of warm water, making it a “special place” for Forrest.

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,look for petroglyphs or any formation or white mark/streak  that looks like Y’s, or an owl (wise), pointing us to where our quest ceases, where we will look quickly down.

Look quickly down, your quest to cease,look down from the blaze which still could be up (higher up the hillside) from where you are standing. Specifically look for a shallow cave, overhang, old Indian ruin, etc.

But tarry scant with marvel gaze, … no marvel gazing occurred,  as we could not locate the blaze…this time!



Post-script for those who are still reading this: Since this trip produced no treasure chest, I since have been to Holman Maps in Albuquerque and purchased a “Good” map of my next search location…somewhere off The Enchanted Circle,  which brings to mind Forrest’s quote by TS Elliot:

“We shall not cease from our exploration
And at the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.”


40 thoughts on “San Antonio Hot Springs…

  1. Wonderful write-up and delicious photos..
    I want to go there and let the beauty of the place pour over me….
    Thanks Cynthia

    • In my opinion. That is where TC is placed. Begin “It”, the chase where warm waters halt. Which would be San Antonio Campgrounds. As stated in above assumption. And Take it in the canyon down, which would be Water Canyon. Not far, but “too” far to walk. Which I would assume could be 200ft, give or take. Put in below the home of Brown. R.. Brown R…..
      From there it is no place for the meek. If you dont like the woods or little critters.
      The end is ever drawing nigh…or near. There will be no paddle up your creek. May refer to the size of the creek, can’t paddle up that creek in ankle deep waters. Just heavy loads, water high. May refer to rocks being placed around TC and/or the electrical lines that cross the area. Water high may represent flat ground or old creek bed. If youve been wise and found the blaze, which maybe the BLM “trailblaze”. Look quickly down, your quest to cease. Thats where I am stuck…still processing that part. Your effort will be worth the cold…may refer to the part of New Mexico where it gets snow and ice. If you are brave and in the wood…which is where the poem brings you. Title is given to the person who found it by the person who “lost” or placed it there. Thx for opening up the mind to alternative thinking. Good luck treasure hunters, I hope any hypothesis that I have come to believe maybe a help to anyone who is willing to partake in the Thrill of the Chase. Truely inspiring this has been for myself and others from what I have read. Good day everyone

  2. I’ll wait for you there!

    That was a splendid idea taking a photographer along. The photos are very nice.

  3. Just curious at this time
    Wonder if perhaps the blaze could be a shadow of my “It” at a certain time of day. Now wouldn’t that be something 🙂

  4. Cynthia, what a wonderful write up. I love the area and am glad to have seen more of it from your eyes. Thank you! 🙂

  5. Cynthia,
    I love that area ! What a nice write up and the pics are great. Thanks for sharing and good luck w/ your new map.

  6. I had tried to reach that spot by another road running parallel. I went down 144 as far as my sedan could travel. On the way out I backed into a little drainage ditch. The front left of my car was in the hole and the rear right was up in the air. Fortunately I was not in there alone. A half hour later somebody came by and helped pull my car out. I should warn everybody that maps of the back roads are not accurate. But they are fun.

  7. Cynthia, great story and I never tire of looking at your wonderful pictures. Tom did a great job with the pictures. I don’t think the double omegas have anything to do with the poem; maybe I should reconsider that……I really liked your double omegas…..

    The Valles Caldera is a special place.

  8. My fav part were the 2 tunnels. That was awesome to see! I would love to climb around that area. Thank you Cynthia and Tom!

  9. Cynthia, thanks for sharing your adventure. I like your pictures. Keep thinking outside the box. I just wanted to point out one thing. One of my past errors too 🙂 Heavy lodes is not correct terminology when speaking of electricity. Yes it’s true that lode is an electrical term but because its combined with heavy he is talking about a physical lode as electricity has no weight.

    1 a : having great weight ; also : characterized by mass or weight b : having a high specific gravity : having great weight in proportion to bulk c (1) of an isotope : having or being atoms of greater than normal mass for that element (2) of a compound :

  10. Very nice write up Cynthia, it looks like it was an awesome adventure. I love your photos especially the clear water in the 3rd photo. Thank you for sharing.

  11. I’ve never been to that area but loved your pictures and story so much that I’d sure like to go there now! 🙂 Looking forward to a write-up of your next adventure.

  12. This was my first treasure hunt and to be able to do it with Cindy, my life long friend, really made it special.
    I hope there are more to come when I get back to Albuquerque.

  13. Cynthia, Really enjoyed your story, and pics (especially the smiles). What a beautiful place–thanks for sharing it with us.

  14. Thank you Cynthia and Tom for sharing your chase. For a minute I felt as if I was trailing behind the both of you. Did you notice that crevice in the sith photo?
    I got this feeling the chest is in a place like that.

  15. The San Antonio springs are a favorite secret around here. I have been going there since I was a teenager. The road is closed from October until almost mid-summer, some years. It is my favorite hot springs because it is hard to get to, so much fewer people to fight. Also, the water is pristine clear.

    • I’ve never been to San Antonio Spring or the ice caves there. I have been to the Shoshone Indian Ice Caves in Idaho. I’d recommend a visit. They’re very cool. Get it? Very COOL? Too bad Forrest ruled out Idaho. Isn’t Mother Nature just AwESOmE? I love the laws of physics. Without the laws of physics…I’d just DIE! Then again, perhaps I’ll die because of the laws of physics. I only hope Heaven can wait. Or maybe Heaven is just waiting ’til hell claims me…I don’t know. I always wanted to go down a really big slide!!! 🙂

  16. Need a favor out there
    Can someone if u can send me the picture of peggy Zoe and Kelly that’s in the too far to walk book
    Thank u

  17. Whoa! Cynthia, you’ve been busy. Nice job. I can tolerate only one spider at a time. You, many! I am happy to see your tenacity. If I had a team, I’d want you on it. Keep upthe great work. Thank you for sharing Cynthia’s story with us, f. We certainly appreciate it.

  18. Slurbs, thanks for your vote of confidence…and speaking of confidence, my next search area has better solves than this one…I will move with confidence…early November…weather dependent of course. Let’s arrange to meet at Garduno’s and I’ll show you the trove. LOL!

    Thank you, everyone, for your kind words.

    • I have been intrigued by this narrative. It has helped me thru some stressful times recently, with a loss of loved one. This story has been inspiring, motivating and very therapeutic to me. I was reading up on the storyline and I came across your article, and I could not get this place out of my mind. So my family and I traveled to N.M. just to follow up on your findings and to elaborate and search for myself to satisfy my thirst for adventure. We traveled around the Valles Caldera, magnificent environment with beautiful backdrops in every direction. We eventually went to the San Antonio Campgrounds to search for the TC. With no avail, I am confident that it is located in the campgrounds if it has not been found already. One piece of evidence I would like to share would be the cover of his book TSoSLP. I believe it is map of thecgrounds. I would love some feedback and to hear some thoughts of others in the same boat. Thank you for your writing your article. I hope this is of some use to someone reading it.

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