My Best Solve So Far…

by TimM

Hi everyone.  I have been sitting on this solve for over a year and a half.  So far, I think it’s the best one I’ve come up with.  I have had a few other ones in the past two years but I always seemed to try my hardest to get the solve to fit the poem instead of the other way around.  This one, however, it appeared that everything just fell into place.  I had planned to go to Colorado last spring to get boots on the ground but for one reason or another that never happened.  I was in a rush to beat Amy Sweitzer to Colorado because this solve was so good that I thought she figured it out too…  lol.   Amy, and whoever else, can check it out if you want to….  But, if you find the chest, don’t forget to throw this old dog a bone.

I was trying to figure out the best way to tell my solve without boring all of you.  I figured the best way to do it is to tell a few stories from the research I’ve done and then use a lot of pictures.  I apologize in advance if this gets too wordy.  I will also try to give you the websites that I got my ideas from.  You’ll have to forgive me if I can’t remember some of the info… it’s been well over a year.  I have always thought that the whole poem held clues.  I didn’t want to skip the first stanza and start WWWH.   So, with that said… lets get started.

Story 1.   In January 1859 a fellow by the name of George Jackson was hunting with his buddy.  They camped in an area now known as Clear Creek.  Jackson wanted to explore the area around there more but his hunting buddy decided it wasn’t for him and returned to Golden, Colorado.  The next day Jackson explored westward and saw a bluish mist or cloud rising from the nearby canyon.  He thought it was an indian encampment so he crept through deep snow to look over the ridge.  What he saw was a herd of mountain sheep grazing on green grass and the mist was steam from a hot spring.  After camping there over night he headed west the next day.  He set up camp on a sand bar next to Clear Creek and built a bonfire.  The fire thawed the ground around him and he was able to use a drinking cup to pan for gold.  He ended up finding $9.00 worth of gold.  Jackson marked the spot and returned to Golden, Colorado planning to return next spring.

Story 2.   Silver Plume is a silver mining town in the Front Range of the Rocky Mountains west of Denver, Colorado.  The name of the town came from a poem that the owner of a hotel made when prospectors brought some silver in to him.  His poem is:

Knights today are miners bold,
Who delve in deep mines’ gloom,
To honor men who dig for gold,
For ladies whom their arms enfold,
We’ll name the town Silver Plume!

Another resident of Silver Plume was a gentleman named Clifford Griffin.  Mr Griffin was from New York.  He was set to be married but the night before the wedding his soon-to-be wife became gravely ill and died.  To escape the memories of his beloved he and his brother moved to Colorado and they came to own the 7:30 mine.  It was named the 7:30 mine because the owners would allow their miners to start work at 7:30 intstead of 6 a.m. like all the other mines in the region.  Every evening Mr Griffin would go up to a nearby cliff and play the violin.  The sounds of his music could be heard everywhere in town because of the acoustics of the valley.  One night after playing his melodies the townspeople heard a shot ring out.  Most of the town ran up to the cliff to find Mr Griffin had shot himself in the heart and was lying in a grave that he had already dug.  He left a note for the people asking to be left where he was because that’s the only place he found happiness after his wife passed away.  The town errected a granite monument in his honor directly over the gravesite.

Now… down to the solve.

Lets look at the first stanza…

As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.

I figured that this was a clue to get you to the right general area.  Hinting of riches new and old meant that the chest are the new riches and the old ones are precious metals or artifacts.  I don’t remember exactly how I got to the search area that I’m about to tell you about but it seems everything fits…  “As I have gone alone in there”  much like Clifford Griffin going alone and accepting his fate on the cliff.  He was ready to pass on.  “And with my treasures bold”  kind of ties in with the poem that named the town of Silver Plume.  I know it’s a stretch but bear with me…. These hints are mostly fluff or coincidence.

The next stanza reads…

Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown

Now this is where the meat and potatoes are!  The first story regarding George Jackson is key here.  The hot springs that he found are in Idaho Springs, Colorado.  Early records show that a hot spring geyser erupted in 1859 but had stopped flowing by 1860 and it was attributed to the mining activity in the area.  This is where warm waters halt.    Let’s take a look at a map…   pic1I have circled the town of Idaho Springs.  That’s Interstate 70 running East to West.  If you “Begin it where warm waters halt”….


“And take it in the canyon down” ….


You end up in the area of Georgetown and Silver Plume.   At the height of production from the mines in this area, a group of investors got together and decided that a railroad would be better to transport the ore down to the Denver area.  The grade was steep and tough so they designed the rail line to loop around a few times to give the steam engines a chance to build up speed.  After the mining in the area died down portions of the railroad was torn out… but not the section between Georgetown and Silver Plume.  This is known as the Georetown Loop.  It is a sightseeing railroad that is still in use today…  Here is a map of the looped tracks…


See how the tracks loop over themselves?   The distance between the two towns is only 2 miles… but the length of the railroad tracks is 4 miles. There is also a bike/ walking path next to Interstate 70 between the two towns.  Does that mean its “Not far, but too far to walk”?  Why walk when you can take the train, right?

The next line in the poem is “Put in below the home of Brown”   Take a look at this map below.  This map is of the town of Silver Plume and just west of it.  If you look close you will see a notation that says “Brown Gulch”.  The gulch was named after one of the earler miners in the area.  There was a town of Brownsville just below the gulch that actually preceded Silver Plume.  After Silver Plume came into existance, the town of Brownsville became sort of a slum area that was mostly inhabited by immigrants.  Both towns had their own schools because no one wanted to intergrate them.  An avalanche occurred and wiped most of Brownsville off the map and killed a bunch of miners and their families.  After that, the two towns merged into what exists today.  So, when you “Put in below the home of Brown” you are in the town of Silver Plume.


Lets look at the next stanza….

From there it’s no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.

This stanza gets you moving…  Do you see the zig-zag line on the map North of the Town of Silver Plume?  That’s not a road… that is a hiking trail.  Remember the story about Clifford Griffin?  That trail leads you to the monument on top of the cliff where he died.  It’s called the 7:30 mine trail.  The trail zig-zags because the grade is steep.  That means “From (Silver Plume) it’s no place for the meek,”  And of course “the end is ever drawing nigh” because the trail stops at the monument… where Mr Griffin’s end occurred.   The next line is “There’ll be no paddle up your creek” but it’s not talking about Clear Creek…  There used to be another small creek that dumped into Clear Creek.  It was called Cherokee Creek.  It’s not flowing any more or it has been diverted.   You’ll see why it doesn’t flow any more in a picture later.  As for “Just heavy loads and water high”.   I attribute that to the heavy loads of a backpack and water high, as in tipping your drinking water up to get a few gulps.

On to the next stanza…

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,
But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.

I think there is only one or maybe 2 clues in this stanza…  Obviously “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze” is one of them.   Let me show you some pictures of the 7:30 mine trail.  These photographs were posted by Nathan Abels at


The trail doesn’t look too rough… do you think its easy enough for an 80 year old man??


Now this is an important photograph.  See the pile of stones there?  Is that a blaze?  Well, not exactly….  Its called a cairn.  If you needed to mark a trail in unfamiliar surroundings and there were no trees to put a “blaze” what would you do?  Exactly… a cairn serves the same purpose since they both mark the path.  There are a series of these cairns along the 7:30 mine trail.  “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze…”

We are getting close, ladies and gentlemen!!!

The next line is “Look quickly down, your quest to cease,”   The next map shows a little different view of the 7:30 mine trail… you can see the topography.  Unfortunately, when you zoom this close on Google Maps the lines that mark the elevation disapear.  I know from my research that where I think the chest might be is within the 5000 to 10200 feet in elevation.  I want you to pay particular attention where the mine trail makes almost a 90 degree turn straight up.  Do you see it in the center of the map?  It goes up for a reason there…


This next picture is right after you turn due north on the trail.  You can see that it is a steep drop off on the left side and that’s why the trail turns north.  Nathan posted on his blog that there was also a cairn in this photograph but I don’t see it.  I’ll take him at his word.   This is where you “Look quickly down, your quest to cease”   The rest of the stanza just means get it and get out… lol.


Let’s go to the next stanza…. Hang in there, we almost have it  !!!

So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answers I already know,
I’ve done it tired, and now I’m weak.

I think this stanza goes back to the reason Forrest hid the chest in the first place.  He wanted to leave a lagacy….   Be remembered.   “So why is it that I must go”

That kind of sounds like what Clifford Griffin might say.   He also might say “The answers I already know, I’ve done it tired and now I’m weak.”  This pretty much sums up this stanza.

The Final Stanza…..   (drum roll…….)

So hear me all and listen good,
Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold.

“so hear me all and listen good, your effort will be worth the cold.”  Well, due to the geography of the region Silver Plume seldom gets into the 70 degree range.  Most of the time it’s lower than that….   But let me show you something amazing….    “”If you are brave and in the wood, I give you title to the gold.”

When you “Look quickly down” this is what you’ll see…..


Do you see where the trail turns North?  What would you see if you looked over the edge??  Can you tell what it is in the gulch?   How about if I show you the photo….


Do you see the wood??   If you are in the wood, you get the gold…    (by the way, this is why Cherokee Creek was diverted or doesn’t flow any more.)

TA DAH !!!!!!!   (he he he he he)

Before you go off looking this stuff up on the interwebs, let me give you a few more tidbits….

If you look on Dal’s blog under the “cheat sheet”  you can quantify everything on that list with this solve.  It all works in order…  and as for this place being special to Forrest?  Well, the Silver Plume School House that sits at the base of the mountain in back of town has been converted to a historical museum.  Remember how Forrest’s dad took him to the school house because of the saying over the door?   Maybe this place is special because he brought family here to ride the Georgetown Loop Railroad?  Maybe it’s the fishing in Clear Creek?  I’m not sure… but all of fits.

If you go check it out, remember this old dog that led the way…  Happy hunting and BE SAFE!!!

Take care,


67 thoughts on “My Best Solve So Far…

    • To Joe Sparrow,

      It could very well be in Wyoming/Montana border around the 9 Mile Hole Fishing area on the Madison River:

      Read this article :

      Could be a clue of the 9 clues at every mile marker 1 through 9 and add this quote from Forrest Fenn:

      “There are so many bits of history that I would like to find: a Clovis point between the ribs of a Mammoth, a letter written by my father to my mother before they were married, a special fishing spot on the Madison River that no one alive knows about but me.” -Forrest Fenn

      I haven’t delved into it too much yet but it sure fits thus far as investigated so far. Even better than my Colorado thinking.

      I am just here to help people with what I see. I am not going to search but just sharing my armchair research.

      From chase to race!


  1. Hi TimM, interesting solve thanks for sharing. I searched the Silver Plume area a bit, back in 2013. What got me most interested in that area is because Silver Plume is below the HOB mountain.

    I first discovered the 7:30 mine trail the hard way by climbing up the mountain side via Brown Gulch (my “take it in the canyon down”). The trail made it a lot easier for coming back down.

    • Well, since you came down on the 7:30 trail past the pile of wood… is it possible that you were within 200 feet of it? Lol

  2. Has anyone checked out the wooden area as described? How about the Tarry Scant-part – how does that fit in?

  3. Creative & pretty straightforward Tim & thanks for sharing.
    I have a little problem with take it in the canyon up.
    Also, the trail appears to switchback & I think Forrest answered that question in one of the videos.
    Very nice presentation.

  4. Hello Tim,
    That was more or less my solve two or three years ago. Took the family on the train loop and toured the Lebanon mine which goes right under I-70. Silver Plume was not named after the poem, it was so named because of the first silver found there. It resembled a large feather, plume, hence the town’s name. Also, the trail does not end at the Griffin monument (hidden there, one can find a trail log and document being there) erected by his brother. The young lad didn’t just play the violin, he played it with reason. He played for his wife to be in mourning. He longed to be with her and did not want to live without her. It is a beautiful love story. If you visit the museum, the attendant is full of information and you should see if the maps in the classroom… Wow! The hike to the monument follows what use to be a road and is now a trail. The path beyond the monument becomes more narrow at the gulch and goes over to a sealed mine which can be seen from the monument area. There are great mining relics across the gulch. Also along the path to the monument, you can find an abandoned mining tunnel. It looks scary, but if you are brave… I was brave and entered. I goes back about 40 feet. I dug for the treasure in there and ate a good serving of crow. While I was in there alone, some hikers came to the entrance and dared each other to go in. I stayed quiet and none dared enter. That was fun, they never even knew I was in there! Did you get to stop by the local pie shop in Silver Plume? If you missed it, you should go back! Tasty and the owner told me that I should have dessert before my meal because life is too short not to! That sounded just like f. People who are into working numbers into their solves will love the locomotive numbers.
    I don’t recall how much of this solve I shared before. When I went, I had headed that way right after work at 4pm (I get up at 3:30am). I stopped along the way to visit a friend and continued up through Leadville. I arrived in Georgtown at 1:30am and no hotel answered the buzzer. I googled nearby camping areas and found some beautiful camping area West of Georgetown that you access at the West end of Georgetown. I was too tired to set up camp and it was pitch black outside. I slept in my vehicle (no fun). I awoke to a beautiful area (you should take that little drive West of Georgetown too, beautiful lakes and rolling mountain tops!). This puts you directly South of Brown’s Gulch (quickly down?). I had gone on this solve by myself first, then a week or so later I took my son and wife.
    I liked your solve, but I liked mine first.

  5. Timm. Ha ha, I’m glad I scared you !!!!
    My solve is not that one. Mine is better. Lol ha ha. Just joking, ( well not really)
    What a great solve you have, that is quite a bit of some research. At least your smart enough to search Colorado. 🙂

    I wish Forrest could tell someone if they were hot, warm, or cold when searching for this gold. Forrest that’s the game we should play. Just saying…… 🙂 🙂

    Tim don’t be afraid me. I’m still having issues trying to find it. 🙂

    Wishing u luck in Colorado.

  6. It took a lot of work writing up your solution, but wasn’t that research fun! Really like how you put it together.

  7. TIMM – Wow! What a great solve! Pictures, history, maps! Totally awesome!

    To further support your solve:

    “So hear me all and listen good,”

    Clifford Griffin playing the violin on the cliff.

    There is a place here where I live called Griffin Butte,…which is sort of my spiritual mountain,…where I often hike up to a memorial picnic bench to think about The Chase. So I looked up this definition previously:

    “The griffin, griffon, or gryphon (Greek: γρύφων, grýphōn, or γρύπων, grýpōn, early form γρύψ, grýps; Latin: gryphus) is a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and an eagle’s talons as its front feet. Because the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle the king of birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. The griffin was also thought of as king of all creatures. Griffins are known for guarding treasure and priceless possessions.”

    And I heard there was great fishing now for Cutthroat trout on Clear Creek,…which is why you see a bronze reflecting one in this display of bronze sculptures in Golden, Colorado:

    And there are similar tales of mining era woe and hauntings in Georgetown, CO. But I’ll bet you knew that already.

    • TIMM – And on cairns:

      “In modern times, cairns are often erected as landmarks, a use they have had since ancient times. However, since prehistory, they have also been built and used as burial monuments; for defense and hunting; for ceremonial purposes, sometimes relating to astronomy; to locate buried items, such as caches of food or objects; and to mark trails, among other purposes.”

      And ff had an alligator named Beowulf,…so:

      “THEN fashioned for him the folk of Geats
      firm on the earth a funeral-pile,
      and hung it with helmets and harness of war
      and breastplates bright, as the boon he asked;
      and they laid amid it the mighty chieftain,
      heroes mourning their master dear.
      Then on the hill that hugest of balefires
      the warriors wakened. Wood-smoke rose
      black over blaze, and blent was the roar
      of flame with weeping (the wind was still),
      till the fire had broken the frame of bones,
      hot at the heart.”

      “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
      Look quickly down your quest to cease.”

      • TIMM – I also remember over on the Jenny’s MW thread that someone mentioned that pilots “go West” when they die. So do Vikings I think. Remember the final scene from the movie, “First Knight”,…where Sean Connery as King Arthur is placed on a boat and goes off over water into the sunset,…and they light his funeral pyre with burning arrows?:

        And tjschweers wrote this here at Dal’s:

        “I need help with a riddle in order to identify / locate the blaze once I’m at the end of the creek. I was originally hesitant to put this out there, but perhaps it will help move things along. If “…wise” means ‘West is East’ … what can that mean, and how can that be (West being East?) What would be a ‘unique’ answer that would stand alone? Anybody?”

        Hmmmm,…what COULD that mean??? 🙂

        • E* ~”If “…wise” means ‘West is East’ … what can that mean, and how can that be (West being East?) What would be a ‘unique’ answer that would stand alone? Anybody?”

          Maybe if you think about how he poem is Contiguous… that answer might be geographical connected to another possible clue reference. imo… ‘too much’ linear thinking, as in consecutive, order leaves little imagination and over simplifies the clues. [ that is a suggestion not a put down ].

          IF, mirror image or opposite lines of think is helpful in the poem… such as “As I” might be ISA… the ‘wise to mean west to east’ works well. and might be the reason “as I’ve” was not used.

          If you been wise to discover which direction is needed and found the blaze…
          and why this line in the poem is past tense to the rest of that sentence to be present tense.

          This has been my attempt for sometime now as to, using the entire poem… instead of limiting one self to 9 line equals clue and not much more.

          • Seeker – Great observations as usual,…but you wrote:

            “If you been wise to discover which direction is needed and found the blaze…
            and why this line in the poem is past tense to the rest of that sentence to be present tense.”

            The tense is ‘present perfect tense’ not ‘past tense’ (aske Jake – he’ll explain it!)

            And “West” IS “East” (aka “WISE”),…meaning in MY solve,…where pilots (ff) go (to die),…is figuratively Viking WEST (at my Hidey spot),…which happens to be directionally EAST of my trail “put it” at Boat Mountain. 🙂

          • Thanks E*,
            No! please don’t ask Seeker to ask me anything.
            He cannot just ask one question, he’ll wanna know why, why is why & why is why is why???
            Then you will not get a straightforward answer after answering all the YYYY’s.

            Thank you for your understanding.

          • Seeker – To restate that line in The Poem:

            If you (have) been wise and (have) found the blaze.

            The second (have) was omitted.

            Present Perfect tense,…all the way. IMO.

            And I meant “put in” not “put it” in my previous post. The “blaze” in this case is a Go-Viking-WEST “boat”,…at Boat Mountain.

  8. Excellent Timm, and great links E’. Maybe ff came for the sculpture and stayed for the fishing.

  9. I worked on a very similar solve. It ultimately went no where and did not fit with the context clues enoug hfor me to venture out. This is NOT a remote area. It’s a popular area with tourists, mountain bikers, and hikers. In any event, some additional points of emphasis.

    “It” is the historic railroad between Georgetown and Silver Plume.

    Begin “it” where warm waters halt refers to old steam braking system in pre-1875 locomotives. The steam does the halting.

    Not far but too far to walk. The two cities are just a few miles apart.

    Take it in the canyon down. Because of the steep grade between the cities, the track features a rare double loop that loops over itself into the canyon.

    No place for the meek / Found the blaze. The track crosses a gate called Devil’s Gate Bridge.

    Tarry scant. Literally railroad tar is scant. The railroad used to branch out to other tracks that have since been torn up.

  10. Lots of research and interesting. My only trouble is that it is not a special place and is not beautiful in the least. There is no indication that Forrest had any reason to visit this area ever. The fishing is horrible and the mining impacts are dramatic. Traffic and people added to all that and you have a no go. Don’t waste your time…i live nearby. Plus, no one would say, “Why didn’t I think of that?” It HAS TO BE more simple and straight-forward…IMO

  11. My first shot in the dark started at Idaho Springs also.

    But once I read the book more than once, it became clear that Colorado has absolutely nothing in common with any of the stories or any of the people so beloved in that memoir.

  12. I believe I may have found the location or pretty darn close:
    Fenn won’t respond to my latest email about him pointing to the map.
    Take each of the 9 clues and step outside the box and analyize each word and why Fenn gives the various timelines.
    When You do that pick a spot and see if it fits. If not go on to the next: etc.
    I believe it is in New Mexico. Also I believe it is in Santa Fe County.
    If I am correct the puzzle was not that difficult.

    • John can you give us a little bit more of a hint on solving the poem than “step outside the box?”

  13. You have to go and research, research and more research.
    You have to get inside Fenn’s mind and understand him.
    I must tell the truth. I have only been seeking for about 10 days. 10 intense days.
    You have to understand what Fenn meant when he said these items were not there 100 years ago but may survive the next 100.
    You have to find out what would make someone meek.
    “There’ll be no paddle up your creek”;
    Up a creek without a canoe. I gave this one away
    (This is what I mean by thinking outside the box)
    If you’ve been wise and found the blaze.
    So hear me all and listen good.
    If you are brave and in the wood.

    Fenn has admitted that the treasure is readily accessible and that when deciding on the location (which he says he gave much thought), he was thinking “10,000 years down the road”.
    He just gave you another hint.
    There are nine clues in the poem. I gave you four.

    I am looking for an honest seeker willing to split the treasure. I can’t get there.
    Fenn is not answering my emails… is he ill?

    • John of Crossbow – I don’t think Forrest is ill. Once you start communicating with him about the actual chase, he usually won’t reply. He has said in the past that his silence is not an indication of anything. He is not going to personally help individual searchers out. In my opinion he has given everyone more than enough information with the poem, books, and some stories that he has shared in other avenues. He also suggests that GE and a good map are helpful. I’m not in the New Mexico camp. When I started the chase, I wanted it to be in NM or even CO but my research led me to another state. Have fun.

  14. John,

    I have yet to have him respond to my emails, letters, etc. You are correct when you said “he just gave you another hint”. At least I think you are….Keep up the good work…

    It has to be in a place where he knows has been in existence for that long for him to predict it could be there in the future that long….

    It is easier to capture the thoughts of a clever man than it is to follow a scatter brains because he has a process in the way he thinks and he validates his statements…so all we need to do is validate his validations and throw in a little luck!

  15. The 100 years was in my opinion not where the treasure is located but where to start

    You have to understand what Fenn meant when he said these items were not there 100 years ago but may survive the next 100.

  16. That is in regards to the blaze…the blaze wasn’t here 100 years ago but will be 100 years from now…the location was here 100 years ago….the starting point was here 100 years ago.

  17. Okay John Crossbow you lost me with your explanation and “hints”…good luck in your search

  18. Sorry: I did not mean to start a lot of contraversy:
    What I was thinking the reference was: A particular type of structure that was not here 100 years ago; exists now but don’t know if it will be around 100 years from now. I do not believe it was reference to a living thing. Most of the trees there; for example do not last more than 60 to 80 years.
    BTW: I don’t know why Yellow Stone was the first choice as you are not permitted metal detectors and if you fine something it cannot be removed from National Parks. This eliminates quite a few areas in New Mexico.

    Boy I thought I went right to the place after researching for 3 days. Everything matched but it was in the wrong direction at over 200 miles south of Santa Fe. Ojo Caliente and Alamosa Creek near Wilson New Mexico. There is even a video posted by just a hiker about the creek, the canyon, etc.
    And to Missouri Jon.
    My guess is there are two parts to the blaze. One could last more than 100 years the other will not.

    • That is not quite true regarding finding it in NP. True, you cannot take anything that is indigenous to the park. However, if you where to find lost or abandoned property in the NP, you are required to report it the Park Superintendent who would then have 60 days to locate the rightful owner. In the case of the TC, and Me. Fenn would be alive, that would be easy. If he was deceased at the time, it would still be easy. All of the park Supers are very well aware of the Fenn treasure. After 60 days, the finder has the right to claim the property if the owner has not been located. So there would be some red tape, but not a reason to eliminate a NP. This is my understanding. If I am incorrect, someone please correct me.


      Windy City

    • Silver Plume is around 14000 feet right? Isn’t the elevation of the treasure below 10000 and something?

  19. Fenn said the treasure is hidden in the Rockies between certain elevations.
    The Rockies extend over 3000 miles from New Mexico to British Columbia.
    Does anyone think an 80 year old male recovering from major surgery; who says he hid the treasure in one afternoon traveled any great distance through these mountains.
    I’m sure most if not all have seen the photo of Forrest standing in front of a map pointing to Santa Fe County. I believe he is pointing in the general direction of his treasure.
    The picture I believe was taken at the Flying Star Cafe.
    IMHO: he is pointing to; Sangre de Cristo Range. I believe this is the beginning of the Rockies at around 5000 feet. When he said 10,000 years I do not believe he meant to give out that number but IMHO he did not mean years.

    • John you really do need to do some research, it’s all here. Fenn wasn’t recovering from major surgery when he hid the chest.

    • John of Crossbow – I will second what Goofy typed. My best advice is to give yourself about a month to read TTOTC, TFTW, the blogs, and watch some videos. You will be able to eliminate a lot of thoughts and places that have already been searched. A fair amount of the Rockies has been searched, especially the New Mexico area. Allow yourself a bit more time of researching before you start formulating a solve that has logic and imagination. Be careful though, the chase can be time consuming.

    • Remember he is a pilot and he has wealth…..although he said he drove in a sedan he never said where he drove the sedan from.

    • John-
      You need to take a step back and read before you yap…
      I took that photo of Forrest pointing at the NM map. He is pointing precisely where he was asked too. South of Santa Fe so no one could suggest that he is pointing to the location of the treasure…
      But I guess there is always someone who jumps without looking…

  20. AMEN Dal, I’ve read everything I can get my hands on, the scary part … the more you read the worse it gets. The options multiply the more you read. A person could take a map of the Rockies, pick any spot and make the poem fit. Happy hunting!!

  21. Lived in Colo most of my life not sure how you figure Idaho Spgs to Georgetown is down?

    • LOL Buddy I was thinking the same. I’m up in Idaho Springs area a lot I think the only reason he said that was because the road turned sharp south? Because he was definitely going in an uphill direction on that route. But I guess even when those roads are going “up”, you can still go down (over the side of the hill and down to the creek)… so maybe?

      I gave up on the treasure because I will say that I was familiar with the oldsantefetradingco website well before all this started, even back when the only contact on the site was for Kelly, not Forrest. I thought I had three places that were definitely “it” based on what I already knew. What I realized is that I don’t think you can do a “solve” while sitting on your computer. I think you need to be where right where warm waters halt and everything from there you will just need to “be there” and see things the same way that Forrest did. I dabbled around with finding other locations, and I swear every single place I started, my imagination could make *all* the clues fit. I don’t have time to spend every weekend on the off-chance that I start at the same spot Forrest did. I think that, statistically, with enough treasure hunters, someone will start out at just that right spot and find it. The problem is, logically, there are just too many places where warm waters halt in the Rockies.

  22. Being from Colorado, I really enjoyed this solve seeing as I’ve made the trip up I-70 a lot this summer to our cabin up near Steamboat Springs. I’m also weary to admit I have just learned about the treasure hunt… and being from Colorado… I guess I shouldn’t be wasting any time! 😛

    • We are planning a trip to search for the treasure at the end of July.
      We will have small back packs, plenty bottles of water, first aid kit, bear pepper spray, air horns, bowie knives, ponchos, hats, bug spray, sun screen, light weight long pants, hiking shoes and a loaded digital camera. Did I forget anything? Remember warm water at sea level is classified as any water between the temperatures of 33degrees f to 211 degrees f

      • An Inreach Explorer would be nice to have along. Have good trip and good luck in your search.


        Windy City

      • john of crossbow asked – “Did I forget anything?”

        From your list I guess you’re day-trekking from a car or base camp, not backpacking. So . . .

        A bandana, lighter, compass, topo map, pencil and notebook, and a sandwich.

        Know where your car/camp is on the topo map before you leave sight of it. Recognise high ground and low ground (rises and washes/drainages) on your map and on the ground around you. Look at the big picture


        Personally I get way more use out of a swiss army knife and/or a leatherman than a bowie knife. Plus there’s ways to hurt yourself with a big knife in rough terrain without ever taking it out of the sheath. Everyone pocket a swiss army knife, and substitute at least one leatherman for one bowie knife in the search party.

        I’ve had the same sturdy navel-high walking stick since my backpacking days 30+ years ago. I’m always surprised how unbalanced I feel without it, even just strolling around on uneven ground.

        Binoculars not at all essential, but can be useful and instructive (and entertaining) if you’re on high ground (as opposed to down a canyon). Substitute one air horn for one decent pair of compact binoculars in the search party.


    • I do certainly appreciate the feedback.
      Suggestions are noteworthy and we will
      definitely change some of our equipment for what is suggested.
      Thank You

  23. I liked it. Being a Golden native. Very nice… But “I” am partial to the actual CC “canyon” and a diff “Brown”. I also believe “treasues new and old” could be referring to the “New” kind of treasure found up the hill and along Clear Creek itself, in our Casinos! The Old being any gold/silver still waiting to be discovered in this area. 😉

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