Passages One

Do you save things? I do. When I’m walking along a creek bed or a forest path I find things. Odd things. Pretty things. Curious things. Sometimes I put them in my pocket. Momentos…

When I return home I put these things on the window sill in my cabin, or my bookshelves, or anyplace I can find to tuck them in. They remind me, sometimes decades later, of trips I took, vacations Kathy and I shared, people I’ve met or moments I am glad I can still recall.

The items are certainly meaningless and practically valueless to anyone beyond me. My descendants will be left scratching their cumulative heads wondering why on earth I kept this stuff. If they only knew the sacred memories they served up.

Below are some of Forrest’s interesting saves…

In Jenny’s recent “6 questions” to me she mentioned a piece of chamisa root that she picked up and saved. She said it was special to her. It reminded me of a few things that are in my box of saves. They are part of my biography in a real sense because they indicate who I am and who I want to be. Of the hundreds of such objects that have punctuated my passage thus far, here are five.

In the 1940s I had a really great fishing hole on the Madison River. It was a long cast to reach the big fish and I had to place my fly precisely. A big ponderosa in my back cast was bent on seeing me fail. Over the years I had 20 flies or more snag in its limbs.
On my last visit to that spot I was saddened to see the tree had fallen. The pimento cheese sandwich I consumed while leaning against that tree didn’t seem as tasty as I remembered, and my can of Coke up righted and spilled on the ground.
A cursory search revealed one of my wooly worms still caught on a limb where it had found sanctuary for maybe sixty-five years. I snapped this twig as a tribute to that great tree and a remembrance of those special times. I don’t know why I keep these things. You tell me.

My hair, collected from a number of barber shop clippings. My plan is to make a cloth doll for my great granddaughter Arden, and stuff it with these trimmings. OK, bad idea.

Bomb shrapnel from the war in Vietnam. I wrote on the side. “Picked up in my right wing Jan 31, 1968.” Instant fuse bombs usually detonate few feet above the ground, and the blast sends fragments in all directions, including up. This piece of iron is from a bomb I dropped myself, although I was several miles from the blast when I felt it impact my wing. It’s as a souvenir to remind me of why I don’t want to do those things anymore, and why no one else should either.

This 3 ½“ seed pod belonged to a beautiful big tree that grew next to the First Baptist Church in Temple where my wife and I were married 63 years ago. The church burned to the ground due to a deed perpetrated by some deranged arsonist fiend. The pod is full of seeds and I don’t know what to do with them. They won’t grow in Santa Fe because it is 6281’ above where their mother died in the fire. I’d like to know the name of the tree, and what to do with these special seeds. Can anyone help me with these problems, please?

I made this guitar pick for Roger Miller (the King of the Road). He and Don Meredith were with me at San Lazaro Pueblo when I picked up the little obsidian knife from which it is fashioned. The two of them graced several hours singing country songs between beers, and laughing at each other. I was looking for arrowheads and picking cactus spines out of my guess what.
I reshaped and polished this graceful little thing. Roger said he used it on stage at the Grand Ole Opry, but returned it to me just before he died because, he said, it was “out of tune.” I don’t know why I keep these things. Maybe I should send it to the Guitar Pick Hall of Fame.

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      • Martha;
        Jake no longer participates on this blog. You can find him over at MW – maybe he will respond over there. JDA

    • FF the seed pod appears to be that of a Magnolia. The seeds are not producing because they have expired. Magnolia saplings and trees are very fussy until a true tree takes root then they are quite hearty.

  1. Hi Forrest! I definitely keep things like that. I have kept buffalo hair and still have it and rocks and still have them. I also have some seeds from various plants that I like that I have collected from our travels. I have seeds at home waiting to be planted soon right now. If you want to send me ur seeds, I can grow them and tell u what grew. I would be honored. Let me know. Something else I do that is odd to people is when I move, which isn’t often, I dig up the plants that are important to me and the rocks and bring them with me.

      • Yep, it’s a magnolia seed pod, probably a Southern Magnolia. I’ve saved a few of them myself.

      • Nice find, Jeremy P. I remember I tried growing a Magnolia tree, beside my front porch, about ten years ago. It was just a little plant, no more than a foot tall, and my husband thought it was a weed and mowed it to nothing. I was looking forward to the fragrance through an open window.

      • Oh, and what to do with it? Why, you should grow the tree over the treasure chest! They are really beautiful and would compliment the chest quite nice. Better let me know where the chest is so I can check if it’s in the proper zone for magnolias first 🙂

      • a Magnoila was my first thought. I grew up in San Marino California and had a magnolia tree in our front yard and i loved them as a child.

    • It looks like a southern magnolia tree seedpod, but from the video I saw, if the ripe red seeds haven’t popped out to dangle outside the capsule, they aren’t ripe and unfortunately, chances of them germinating and growing are slim to real slim. But you never know, it’s worth a try – I’ve planted tomatoes and other garden seeds, and flower seeds, that were WAY past their supposed expiration and some still grew. Reduced germination rate, 30 to 50 percent, but some still grew. Definitely try them in some lower/warmer zone, though!

  2. I collect rocks from my travels, one of my favorites is a deep cinnabar with mica inclusion I picked up in a creek beneath a silver mine on the very top of Bradshaw Mountains ne’er Crown King Az. Another simular one is from the top of the mountain directly across from Mount Rushmore it also has crystallized iron in it. My garage and most of my friends gardens are filled with my rocks. Hundreds of them, each one has a memory that only I can read with just a look I can recall the day I found it and the exact place I picked it up. they are like little time machines for me.

    • JDA – I thought you were going AWOL for a time. I trust that everything will work out for those involved and that you will be able to enjoy the chase that ensues.

      Have a great weekend!

  3. Dal and Forrest, thanks for sharing. I have nothing interesting to contribute to this collection of cool collections. I collect rocks or stones from travels but nothing that is unique…just something to commemorate that place.

    My question to Forrest, are you sure that you still have that handful of hair clippings? It looks like what is perched on top Trump’s head! I don’t mean this to sound mean…but when I first saw that picture, I thought WT…, I mean, I thought OMG!

    I really like everything else from your box of saves, and hope you share more. I will not be mean again. (Hope I did not offend you.) Peace… 🙂 (Why don’t my smiley faces show up on the blog?)

  4. Well, Forrest and Dal are King of their roads, and could pave the road with treasures from adventures. Life brings enjoyment when nature’s little treasures bring pleasure. What a dichotomy Forrest is in the greatest moment. A collector who can afford to the very finest of things he cherishes….Yet still finds pleasure in what nature has created.

    Forrest, it seems fitting that those seeds should be returned to the ground to germinate and grow into another beautiful tree in Temple Texas. I live about 2 1/2 hours from Temple and would be delughted to plant them for you next time I pass through Temple. We usually stop in temple for gas. If you’re interested in having me do that, simply say so and I’ll send my address to you via Dal or old Santa Fe trading company .

    • Sure Andesite, I’ll send you some seeds. They rebuilt the Baptist Church way out near the Belton dam. I haven’t seen it yet, and may not. Maybe you could tell someone that you have important second generation Magnolia tree seeds, and they will plant them for us. What do you think? f

      • Forest,
        I think you should get A&M to help grow and plant seedlings from the seed pod at a historic site in Texas, or maybe on the Aggie campus. I’d be happy to take on the project although I don’t have any special pull. I did however spend a lot more than four days there. 🙂 And I live close to your prehistoric friends.

        • StoutAg, Are you one of those cadets us non-regs had so much fun tormenting? 😉
          Joe from dorm 12

    • Sure Andesite, I’ll send you some seeds. They rebuilt the Baptist Church out near the Belton Dam, a few miles west of where it used two be. Maybe you could tell someone out there that you have very important second generation Magnolia tree seeds and they will plant them at the church for us. What do you think?

    • A, are you south of Temple ? I’m about 2 hours south or down and a little east. Be sure to start the seeds in a pot and they should be planted when trees are not growing like winter.

      • Hello Carolyn, thank you. I know very llittle of planting tree seeds and appreciate your help. We are north of temple but have family near Austin and Bryan.

        Will 60 year old magnolia seeds spring to life? Would truly appreciate “how to” advice on best conditions for starting in a pot.

        • Hi A, I don’t live too far from Bryan.
          I’m not sure if they will or not, but it’s definitely worth a try. Magic and miracles happen every day. Plant all the seeds and see which ones are the strongest, largest , if any grow. Keep the faith.

        • Andesite, I am excited for you. You have been entrusted with a beautiful memory. Don’t forget to talk to the plants as they grow.

        • Hello Andesite. Would you be so kind to tell us how the Magnolia seeds are growing, please? I would love to know.

  5. Ask Shilo how to use Instagram. You can put your pictures on there with a little note for each one. Cool people know how to use hashtags #

    I haven’t figured that part out yet. Let me try to help. Maybe someone else has better ideas?

    #ff #nature #barbershop #warsouvenir #rogermiller

      • I don’t use them yet either #pdenver. I think people use them for marketing purposes.


        Hashtags are used on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. The # symbol goes in front of a word or words to group that tweet or post with other tweets or posts about the same topic. It all started back on Aug. 23, 2007 with a tweet by San Francisco techie and former Google developer Chris Messina

  6. the cone looks like bell might make one out of it and give it to Peggy to ring in the memories of your wedding and your love Im alive SIR TitAN and I say ty and hello I love to collect things i have a horse shoe on a stone i found funny how the fit together so well have a great night or day always jb and titan Im healing or getting through this darn stroke thing t y again for keeping my brain moving.

    • Good to hear your doing better Jeff ….. this “chase” will keep everyone’s brain moving…lol
      Take care my friend…. see ya

  7. The passage has only room for one.
    We come into this life as so & depart the same way.
    I would suspect it would be the same for the passage to the treasure.

    • Hi Jake, how are you doing, staying warm and In the sunshine state.
      Your right there’s only one passage to the memoir!
      I so long for that Memoir, and I have the perfect book for that bronze chest.
      Best regards, mj

        • Jake, I love Montana, I’ve never been to Montana, I’ve researched it and have seen many pictures, words can not describe such beauty! What I find most amazing is how much is happening geologically, and I don’t understand anything! How can such violence create such beauty! I hope you find the Memoir and published it, so the world can know, ” WHY”!
          Jake if I make it to Montana, I would like to meet you.
          Best regards,

  8. I don’t know about getting it to grow, but that is definitely a magnolia seed-pod. My childhood is woven with memories of picking those up and dropping them in bags after every spring because they would murder the lawn mower. When they first fall, the pod is filled with waxy, bright red seeds and lots of earwigs.
    Fun fact- Magnolias are the best climbing tree for children- smooth bark, closely spaced branches, and great cover inside the wide, waxy leaves. My parents finally cut the tree down when I had gone to college to get better sun in the front room. I’m not sure my little sister and I have forgiven them, yet.

  9. Hi Mr.Fenn I am new to the chase only six months under my belt and two trips to Rocky Mountains.I love all your special pick ups that is what I call them because I pick them up too and put them in my truck and then in our beautiful garden.This is a beautiful way to remember each and every one of those moments.I love the first picture it brings back old memories of fly fishing on the manistee river where you could catch the biggest Rainbow Trout I have ever seen.l will make more trips to the Rocky Mountains and thank you for the Chase and all those vary special memories. Clint

  10. The story about the tree reminds me of a great old aspen tree that was snapped off during an avalanche. It was a great old grand-daddy of them all and i sure miss that old tree. The place just doesn’t seem the same. Everything changes with time I suppose and a young tree takes it’s place.

  11. My Grandfather was born in 1885. He left a tiny box with a few mementos, one of which is a piece of a wing bone from a turkey.
    Only a few people would have any idea what it is or what it was used for. I had no idea my Grandfather was a turkey hunter. Old timers know that this bone makes a great turkey call. 🙂

  12. I use to love to pick magnolia blooms,and smell them.Mississippi, is the magnolia mama taught me to spell mississippi by saying.”m i Crooked letter,crooked letter,i ,crooked letter,crooked letter,i,hump back,hump back,i. any of you guys ever heard of that one. when I went to yellowstone lake,I saw all these beautiful different colored rocks in the water. so i began to collect those pretty rocks to bring home.after they dried ,they looked just like the same dry rocks that surround yellowstone lake.I had to laugh at my self from crying,that water was cold to my fingers.I have them in my bathroom ,so I can wet them and see the pretty colored rocks.and when i’m in the mountains ,I leave piles of rocks stacked on top of each other to say ,I’ve been glenwood springs canyon,we took a ATV trip,we all got out to rest,and I was building my rock stack,the guide asked my husband,whats she doing,so he had to tell the guide ,I’m leaving my mark,I do it all over.he laughed.and,yes I’ve squated in the woods of florida when I was a kid and got cactus whiskers in my b, too.not fun.guess we all do weird stuff.

      • Cute way of learning how to spell Mississippi. I hadn’t heard it taught that way. My teacher taught us students this way: Mis-sis-sippi. Shorter segments to remember.

    • Hello Virginia Diane. I thought about your situation with the rocks you’ve gathered and not being able to see the colors unless in water. May I suggest you place them in a glass container with water? They’ll be displayed and you’ll be able to see the colors all the time.

    • (Second try.) May I suggest placing the rocks in a water-filled glass container? You’ll be able to see the colors all the time.

    • I used to live in Florida when I was a kid. I once squatted within a few
      steps of an alligator clip (true story).

  13. As you drive to Acrosanti from Courdes Jct. Az. There is a mile or so of both sides of the road filled with rock towers some 8′ + its a special place, you can buy brass bells and wind chimes like the ones Forrest has made, it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s who mold them for him. The history of the place is well worth a peek. Be there a few times with boyish wonder. It is something else!

    • Might be Cordes Jct. it’s been awhile since I’ve been there. My father keeps three of thier windchime bells hanging in an orange tree out back.

  14. Forrest you might be able to card that hair into yarn 🙂 I know still kinda weird… I started saving my white Akitas hair to card into yarn until I saw the look on my husbands face…:) Now I leave it outside in the Spring and the birds cart it off to add to their nests… 🙂

    • There are people who card out their dogs’ winter underfur and spin it into yard, then knit caps out of it. They’re really nice, but I’ve heard even when well washed, sometimes when the caps get wet they still smell a big of dog.

  15. I sprinkle my hair and dogs hair around perimeter of our property to deter critters from unknowingly coming in too close.
    thanks for the insight Forrest….

  16. Oh, you guys have no idea.
    About 2 or 3 months ago my wife and I just bought a home. Boxing up all of our memories was something special. Now un boxing is not so much fun.
    My wife, bless her heart, forgot to forward our address. Oh the irony.
    She kept saying,”I know there is an envelope coming to you”. With some crazy numbers as an address that is not recognizable. It has no names on it???
    But inside is a early valentines card to you.
    Oh how I treasure my wife. I think I will keep that one forever.

  17. I traveled a great deal during a career in commercial aviation which often involved staying in hotels; sometimes for a couple of days or longer during a week. (Allowing for some personal time to learn more about different cities and towns.)

    Hotels provide stationary, and I sure used a lot of it to write about various experiences, places and the people I had encountered during my stay.

    Memories have strong wings that are often needed to carry us throughout the course and the times of our lives.


    • as some one in the aviation industry I am really surprised that you have not figured out the clues.
      I will tell all when the snow melts this year

  18. well, maybe i lack culture, or self definition, or a sense of history, or something fundamental that i just can’t put my finger on yet

    ..but i don’t collect anything at all, not one thing that i can think of – apart from memories

    although i did travel with a harmonica for many years, that was gifted to me by a Swedish musician in appreciation for defending her against a cop that was trying to physically assault her (which cost me a night in jail, and a fake apology 🙂 )

    but that got stolen in a backpacker hostel years ago..
    – does that even count?

    • Darn, all these recollections make me reflect as well. I got my dad a harmonica one Christmas, and he used to love making a racket on it. Now and then he’d play something then pause and ask me to “name that tune” (he loved that show). It didn’t matter what he played, I always answered “Bells of St. Mary”. He’d shake his head in feigned disgust and tell me I was adopted. I have his harmonica now in a little “mementa mori” along with other little things that remind me of him.

    • Hi Jake, how are you doing, staying warm and In the sunshine state.
      Your right there’s only one passage to the memoir!
      I so long for that Memoir, and I have the perfect book for that bronze chest.
      Best regards, mj

      Curious Hobbit, good for you for defending that woman from the evil, creepy cop!!
      You must be a honorable man and if it’s one thing I love more than truth is honor
      I personally collect very little, but what I collect is eternal.
      My husband collects so much it drives me nuts, I go in the den, back bedroom, laundry room, all these shelves and all the stuff, I go into a panic attack, it’s like going into Walmart’s all the stuff overwhelms me., So I just avoid those rooms as much as possible! He’s an odd man, and I still get caught off guard at his personality and I love it, an I imagine he still under estimates me, you would think after 31 years you would have it figured out! Not so, I have decided odd is good! MJ

    • mmc-
      lol, your dad sounds like a very big-hearted fellow, i like him
      – esp given that he adopted you 🙂

      thanks Martha-
      given that my humour is intolerably horrid, honour is all i have going for me 🙂

      btw, you have just convinced me to open a novelty shop in-which i will sell ..thin air

      maybe you could visit my new shop, and upon returning home, replace some of your beloved husbands unsightly knick-knacks with all your newly purchased items.

      ( ..I’ll even give you a generous discount for bulk-buying) 🙂

  19. I roamed around a ghost town looking for evidence of the past and found a beautiful little piece of china. I proudly display the china on a shelf. Forrest and Dal, If you know anyone that weaves baskets, you could ask them to make you a memory basket with your collections.

    • Belle-
      I guess i’d need a pretty large basket…Once Kathy and I were out near Pinedale looking for gemstones. I left Kathy near the van and went to look in a gully I could see a few hundred feet away. I looked in that gully for a couple hours. When I returned Kathy had piled up about 600lbs of rocks she wanted to take home next to the van. NOT GEMS…ROCKS…
      I managed to talk her into forgetting about 400lbs of those stones but she was determined to bring home the remaining 200lbs so we lived with those rocks in the van for the remainder of our trip. If we’d had a roll-over accident we’d have both been crushed by those things…

      • Lol. I’m glad to hear other wives out there do that like I do
        My husband is so patient about that.l, one of the many reasons I love him so.

      • My husband gave me a box for my rocks. He was tired of dirty rocks in our Ford. Your story reminds me of The Long Long Trailer.

  20. Good morning Dal and Mr. Fenn,
    Thank you Dale for your commitment to Mr. Fenn and your website, blog, and the interesting subjects you come up with.
    Mr. Fenn, I think you collect things because your resourceful, your experience’s in your life have been remarkable.
    My mother is 92, she talked about the depression, and world war 2. Mr
    Fenn you were a teenager at the time of World War 2, so I can only imagine how you felt.
    From what my mother said about world war 1, her father served and was shot, he received the purple heart, his flag and metals sit on top of her fireplace mantle in a wooden box. Everytime I see it I think about my grandfather who I never met.
    I believe it’s imperative that people remember history and how the world can change in a flash, so I think you collect to remember!
    Mr. Fenn that piece of metal you pull off your wing, Again a miracle you survived!!!
    I say make a doll for your great granddaughter, great ideal! I have a doll named Mary, my husband pick it up in Brazil, it’s hand made out of corn shucks, I’ve had her for almost 30 years….How is that possible! But my doll Mary is in incredible condition, she’s beautiful and the flowers she holds look like roses, this doll is made of corn shucks.. Nothing else! I think she cost a dollar.
    Sorry I zone out, anyhow magnolias trees are so beautiful, my crazy neighbor when I lived in town cut down his magnolia tree that must have been 150 yrs old, that really depressed me, it was a magnificent tree, I would pick it’s flowers and put them in a crystal bowl.
    Thank you again Dal and Mr. Fenn for some more interesting information! MJ

  21. Forrest, why don’t you send one seed to many people all over the place and then you could spread that tree across the U.S.

    • what a great idea! – maybe send some to other countries too

      (volunteer seed planter in New Zealand – tick!)

  22. Nostalgia warms the heart and sooths the brain…little tokens along the way often spark memories that one may have forgotten were it not for the find. I remember one of my best friends who has since passed every time I see a Magnolia tree. We often had large cook outs at his house under the most magnificent Magnolia tree I have ever seen. The good times and hearty laughter still makes me smile…I bet he still remembers.

  23. Okay, probably nothing but it would appear as though Forrest gave us an exact difference in elevation for the magnolia tree since it was not a evenly rounded off number (6281′). The official elevation of Santa Fe is 7198′ and Temple is 719′ for a difference of 6479′. I also tried elevation of 102 W. Barton Ave. (location of burnt down First Baptist Church) 726′ and Forrest Home in Santa Fe 7207′ for a difference of 6481′ (exactly 200′ off).

    I also google earthed the Baptist Church property from before the fire and after the fire, and it would appear as though Momma Magnolia may have survived the fire.

    Fred Y.

  24. My most precious keepsake is a little box containing my children’s baby teeth. Hope that doesn’t sound weird. It was just another way to hold my babies in my memory as they grew into the adults they are today.

  25. Thanks for sharing Forrest. That pick just sounds out of tune. Being made of Obsidian is was actually meant to be used to play ROCK music. The guy from Metallica would probably love to have it. 🙂

  26. If I could please have some of that hair so if I don’t find the treasure, I will at least have some of your DNA to clone you.
    Oh! Some follicles too please.

    • Jake;

      Are you saying that you are giving up on finding the treasure, because Forrest has said that in the sealed olive jar is his Bio plus strands of hair for DNA testing. Just sayin’ JDA

      • I’m well aware of the hair in the jar JDA.
        Why don’t you take care of your family crises?

        You could use some of his hair on your head.

    • Hair is a strange item to place in a glass jar with an autobiography… If found a thousand years down the road, does Fenn hope to be cloned so he can do it differently?

      Imagine… Your past presents your future self a bio of a life incredible lived.

      • Seeker,
        I don’t think you can clone a human with the DNA from hair.
        I think you may need some flesh to go with it with today’s tech.

        He probably is very satisfied the way he did it & I was just joking about the cloning.

        I would actually like to buy a fly from him with a few gray hairs in it.

        • lol Jake. You really can’t see down the road… what’s blocking your view?

          “I’m not flippant about this. It’s not something somebody is going to be able to do on spring break or a Sunday afternoon picnic. I’m looking a hundred years down the road, maybe a thousand years down the road. People don’t understand that.”
          Adding; at one time he mentioned 10,000 years. I’m wondering why he felt the need to think that far ahead…lol I mean, we know this hunt was only meant for this generation, right?
          Would really like to know what is in that bio in that little jar, tucked away for safe keeping.

          • LOL Seekster,
            I can see far down the road past the chase & when all becomes one again.

            If he planned on dying where the treasure is, then why did he put his hair in the jar seeing there would be some remains left.
            Some teeth would remain in the area unless the scavengers scattered his shell all over the place.

            Maybe we will be able to clone using hair in the future but if he was cloned there is no guarantee his spirit & soul would manifest into the new body & may have matched another shell.

            No memory of what he did & besides, someone would have to find the chest to make this happen & he wouldn’t be able to change what has already happened.

            I’m coming back to the physical world now.

          • Down the road?
            I can’t see what’s in front of me.

            I will stick with what was in front of me & didn’t notice.

            That was made way down the road by Mother Nature.

          • Jake,
            Hypothetical scenario ~ DNA.
            What was medical science in 1917 compared to today… What will it be in 100? 1000 years ?
            I mean, if computers could possibly become as fast as the human brain by est 2040, the sky is the limit on what humans will know in the future.
            As far as; ‘If he planned on dying where the treasure is, then why did he put his hair in the jar seeing there would be some remains left.’
            Geezus, do I need to spell it out for you… he R U I N E D the story. He didn’t hide the chest until a couple decades later… maybe within that time it gave him an option?

            So , just for fun, the finder has the autobiography which tells what was [ maybe he added something other than stories, maybe a request?]
            And little f has this info past on to him as well. So I’m not sure why your stuck with today’s tech. or wondering about knowledge transfer by DNA. The memory is the bio.

            But lets take it one step further… I asked in a Q&A if anything in the chest related to the spot, fenn’s answer was No.
            Could the hairs in the chest give a hint to a clue? Maybe a good map is not only about geography [ land ] but also inhabitants [ humans ] Can you think of any other mapping that would help?
            Hypothetically that is…

          • Obviously medical science has emerged & advanced considerably.
            The DNA process will advance as well but not quite there yet for hair as they let us know what there opinion is anyway.

            OK, So he changed his mind seeing he still had a body to go with it.

            But there is still a reason why as you noted.
            I don’t think that the hairs in the time capsule hold a hint in any way.
            Maybe sheds some light on his insight if the books & stories are lost temporarily.

            The finder can initiate a detailed search with scientists into the past to match the biography with the DNA.

            DNA mapping.

          • If I remember correctly, I think that Forrest said that he put the hairs in the Olive jar so that the DNA sample would verify that the treasure was in-fact the Forest Fenn treasure. This would imply that Forrest has other DNA samples “On File” somewhere.

            At my age, do not put a lot of faith in my memory though. JDA

          • Jake,
            Not so much DNA mapping, but you’re getting warm…lol… hint think of a famous artist who drew one.

        • DNA is DNA, wherever it is gotten from. Never having cloned anything/anyone, I don’t know the specific intricacies involved – but it is my understanding that current cloning techniques need living tissue. Hair is dead tissue. But, even if when cloning can be done from dead tissue, this new being would not be a complete copy of the original being because of nurture and how it was raised and the things that it learns as it grows. Cloning does not clone memories – just physical attributes. At least that’s what my simple mind understands – in my opinion.

          • I have two thoughts to share today for anyone curious for riddles.

            1. DNA is a blueprint – a human blueprint. DNA is more important than most realize in my opinion.

            2. The first clue is a hint in my opinion.

            Thanks all I got! Hope it helps for the curious at heart.

          • Hello swwot. How were scientists able to distract DNA from woolly mammoth hairs, or ancient remains?

          • (Second try.) How were scientists able to extract DNA from woolly mammoth hairs, and ancient human remains?

          • swwot,
            I can only think of a few reasons why one would intentionally save there DNA in a time capsule if you will.

            He probably has plans or planned to save his DNA today to match it up when the TC is found in the future but this does seem unlikely.
            1 – Match it up with previous samples to confirm who, what, why & where.
            2 – To be cloned.
            3 – To help cure diseases.

          • hundreds of years from now, scientists might be able to use a hair sample to fully replicate the original human

            so, one-day (hopefully) i could just pop back into existence again, and fly about in little space-craft, with a robot servant and a funny green hat with a retro antenna sticking out of it

            ..just like Elroys 🙂

          • thanks Dal (i think) ..but i really REALLY want a space-ship too..

            (do you happen to have a spare one laying about, perchance? – i bet you do)

          • pdenver – Your question is answered in part by what I was trying to convey in my comment that DNA is DNA, whether it is from living or dead tissue. Currently, cloning takes more than just DNA. Scientists are currently using single cell embryos and then replacing the DNA in the cell with the living DNA of another living animal so that a clone grows. Nevertheless, DNA can be collected from all living things, or things that were once alive. Ie, rocks have no DNA. Hope this helps.

  27. Even St. Louis collected relics and built temples for them. (weird) Donald Trump collects skyscrapers, Demi Moore has an entire house filled with her doll collection, Sharon Stone collects cashmere sweaters.

    Napoleon collected countries, a habit that led to the “Napoleon complex.”

  28. “Dang me, dang me, they ought take a rope and hang me. Hang me from the highest treee! (please make it a Magnolia), oh woman dont you weep for me”. 🙂

    • that was entirely funny 🙂

      …well, very funny, in a weird sorta way …in a 50/50 weirdish/funny sorta way …i mean, it was slightly funny with a large dose of weirdness

      actually, that was just downright weird, Sparrow!
      ( ..i’m telling Billy!)

  29. So Forrest visited his fishing spot on the Madison 65 years after losing that fly to the Ponderosa. Hmmm…

    • It does make one wonder…1940+65=2005. He mentioned “40’s,” so you could add a few years to it. The math seems to fit.

          • He told me and my family that sitting in his office he was going there to go fishing below hebgan dam was flying also have a email from him stateing it

          • You’re one of the few I believe here Diggin gypsy.
            Experience without wavering goes a long ways.
            You are the roots of the tree that bears leaves to catch the sun & seeds to regenerate.

          • You keep Diggin gypsy!
            I’m all ears & eyes to your tour.
            Close contact in the beginning will lead to victory.

          • I see spring as somewhat doable.
            The conditions will be less difficult than winter but I desire summer.
            If you know exactly where it is, 2 – 3 Mill won’t keep you back.

            Someones hot alright.
            When you coming back to Montana?
            Bracelet or bust.

            PS: It’s National Margarita Day~!

          • As soon as snow melts in montana im outta here And as soon as i get my trip money up by selling junk

          • I will not bet against you Diggin.
            JDA may want to flip a wager.

            Please stay away from Tepee Creek, Wapiti Creek & the Cascades above Big Sky.

          • So where are you diggin this time?
            Hebgen, Rock, Quake, Cabin, Red, Grayling, Johnson Lake, Kirkwood, North Fork, South Fork, Who gives a fork?

            The Madison looks good to me.

          • The math still adds up to a trip he took to the Madison around the time the chest was hidden. Maybe I’m stretching on this one but being I’m searching in that area I’ll take any lead at this point.

          • No, no, yes… I agree, it establishes a reasonable belief that this could match the year the chest was hid.

  30. And a magnolia tree ughhhhhhh all i can say is rake rake rake not so special if u are behind the rake lol someone might get mad if u plant those seeds haha

    • Diggin’—

      I was thinking the same thing. I had two Magnolia trees in front of the last house I lived in. Those trees she’d leaves and pods like crazy!!! Rake rake, rake is right!! 🙂

    • Digging gypsy
      My parents followed the old tradition of planting a tree when you bought a house. They planted a Magnolia. Living in Irving, Tx, she had to water it every other day. The tree would tell us when to water, by shedding her leaves. So, the hose was turned on a trickle and placed at her base for an hour. Our neighbor watered his grass every day, so the tree roots got watered all around.
      Interesting fact: Magnolias have one tap root that is as deep as the tree is tall and it’s support roots are surface roots, so it’s easy to water.
      Mom is gone now, I have her house up for sale. The tree is 53 years old. I hope the new owners love her as much as we did. Maybe, her branches will teach another kid how to climb a tree too!

      • We have several in our yard Leaves galore Pretty trees and yea the kids love to climb in them

  31. Someone who dont wanna forget good times so u take a lil piece with u me and my sisters do that We cut our old walnut tree we grew up stareing at and watched my daddy hang every thing from hogs in it to butcher to engines out of trucks to work on and mama made us shell the walnuts to make a black walnut cake so we all saved a chunk of the wood To make something out of it great memories with that tree Everyone wants to hold on to a great memory as for the hair ummmm go get rid of of it nasty give it to a bird to make a nice winter nest

  32. I wonder if Forrest ever met Johny Cash. Now that was a great musician.

    Also, one token I have is this big, crystal-like rock that was in my driveway growing up. Whenever I look at it I remember times playing street hockey, picking up toads, playing with furry catipillars, the smell of freshly paved driveway and just the general child like awe of life. Maybe I should start making new memories.

  33. Passages One… Does this mean there might be a Passages Two? That would be great!!! Although I still haven’t figured out exactly how these five objects “indicate who I am and who I want to be.”
    Fly ing Branch – Air force
    Lot’s of Hair – 🙂
    Right Wing Conservative – Recovering
    Steel Magnolias – Strength
    Out of tune pick? Flat Rock????
    I also noticed there’s a lot of giggling going on… 🙂

  34. Could a Conch shell have curiously been trimmed from this post? Although my logical trappings aren’t always on point, its absence does seem a mystery to me. F?

    • Jonsey1, I found that to be very interesting. Since I like looking at history of old churches perhaps you would like to partner up with me. Still a lot of research needs to be done, I think and my eyes dont see that good anymore. Was denken Sie?

  35. side note but does anyone else think there should also be a Conchshell included with the above items? Prudence and Providence seem to be whispering something, but its still a mystery to me.

  36. Forrest, thanks for sharing these items, and memories, of your passage.

    You’ve undoubtedly been on a number of beaches around the world. Do you also have a large collection of conch shells?


  37. Mr. Fenn, This is my 1st time posting here on Dal’s site. I was wondering if I could try one of those Magnolia seeds. We currently have two different variant of Magnolia trees in our .54 acre, and it just makes sense to try a third at this elevation of 541 feet above sea level. I already have a location in mind and would plant it in honor of our 3 Grandchildren. I will send my address to Dal, if he would be so kind to forward it to you. Thanks,


  38. Another fact about the Magnolia seed pod…
    It’s not open. Usually in September thru October, they open an drop. The seeds are then mature enough to produce. Some pods never open, resulting in seeds that will never grow, nor mature to adulthood.
    Imo, F is like an unripe Magnolia pod. He retains all his memories and life experiences inside his mind, but has never let time steal his youthfulness, which is trapped forever, in that old pod.

    • The magnolia pod commemorates a day full of promise, love is eternally young and never grows old. Everyone, go get your own pods, fresh and forever young, and old ones, ready to plant. Be ready to nurture the trees they bring.

  39. Enjoying this post.The guitar pick is really really cool, and makes me wonder what sounds it can make on a guitar string.Obsidian can sometimes be hard to work and knap.Beautiful piece.Thanks for sharing this post.Love it

  40. Forrest is a romantic who saved a lot of his precious memories from nature.
    A good quality, many more people should enjoy.
    A love for the simple things maybe.

  41. I have a large (2 to 3 pounds) agate/gemstone that I picked up when I was 18 that I thought I might get cut and tumbled to make a paper weight on my desk. That was over 40 years ago – and now, I wonder if I ever will. It means something different to me now than it did when I picked it up, and I don’t know if I have it in me to “show it off”, as its beauty lies deep inside of the rough exterior.

  42. Sorry to every one else here but it only took my 2 separate hours to figure out where Forrest hid it and I am completely suspired that no one else could figure it out in these past 10 years.
    I though I had it figured out last Nov and took off driving and it is no place for the meek=I passed out from lack of O2, {cancer-lung}, but I did find the blaze and without finding it I went home and reread the book and found 2 different places that pointed to ONE single spot–in water, I tried to return to it but the snow was to deep and now I wait for a snow melt-so next may I shall return to it

    • It took you 2 hours to figure out where he hid it.
      You are slow dude. It took me 2 minutes.
      I’m just gonna let it sit there until someone else figures it out LOL>
      Nother joker in the deck.

    • Yes but do you know what Oppenheimer, Bohm, Szilard, Wigner, Frisch, Peierls, Bloch, Bohr, Franck, Fermi, Fuchs and Teller have in common.

    • Good Grief, another one… I know the solve but…
      Michael, instead of telling us how brilliant you are to have solved it in two hours… Maybe give us something we can actually chat about!!?

    • Great going MK, I think we have ALL felt that we knew where FF hid the chest, I think it took me about two weeks to narrow it down and find my blaze. The only thing is that no one has found it yet, or admits to finding it. Please let us know where you found it when you go and get it in May. Best of luck and stay safe, don’t hunt alone.

    • You’re a daring fellow, Michael with kind of a big gob, if I may be so bold. Sounds like you’re going to make our lives difficult. Puts us all in a predicament, doesn’t it?

    • 10 years Michael? Time does fly when your having fun 🙂 Good Luck to ya please be careful and prepared there is still a lot of snow out there in them there hills…

    • I know I’ve doubted folks before but I think this guy has it all figured out.

      Which state Michael? Wyoming or New Mexico?

    • I am usually a very tactful person, but when the need arises, I can be blunt. So I am just gonna jump right in…….Michael surely you jest when you say, “I passed out from lack of O2.”. Having fought your battle with cancer, surely you see more clearly than most the value of life. Even though it is absolutely none of my business, it disturbed me to know that you pushed your body beyond its limits. In my opinion, no amount of financial gain justifies jepordizing the gift of life. Please know that what I have so boldly said is done so with nothing but compassion for you and the struggles you have obviously endured. I have never met Mr. Fenn but I strongly believe that his wish for all is to find joy in living.

      • BW, your concern is touching. But like many subatomic particles, Michael’s presence in our lives is likely to be extremely short. May his passage to his next incarnation be sweet and swift.

        Do I sound heartless? I don’t mean to.

    • jeez, it only took ME two seconds to work it out.

      as soon as i read the first two words “As I..” i instantly ‘knew’ that the chest is on Mt Isa (in Australia) and didn’t even need to read the rest of the poem

      – just gotta wait for that darn snow to melt in northern Queensland ..and BINGO!!

      • Now come on, CH, you know Her Maj gets first dibs there. They had their chance in that treasonous referendum, but totally blew it!

      • well, you can just tell Miss Eliz not to be so greedy – she has her own crown jewels after all

        anyhoo, after i find the chest, i’ll just buy all of Australia and rename it ‘The Republic of the Bigger Norther Island of New Zealand’.

        ..hmmm, ‘King Curious Hobbit’ sorta has a certain majestic ring to it ..wouldn’t you agree? 🙂

        • I think you’d make a great monark, King Curious – but avoid sitting on the throne in public, as dangling hairy legs sorta spoil the impression, doncha think?

          • We shall not fear your rampaging hordes (whichever friend you’re bringing), for we have Nigel Farage, The Donald’s best buddy, to defend us!

            (And if you could spare some of that wax when you come, my cousin Delores could use a little.)

      • You are quick CH ! But …I was born with the “correct solve” embedded in my DNA…just waiting for Fenn to write his Poem and hide Indulgence…

    • Michael—

      When I first came to this blog I was also (as you put it) “suspired” that no one had found the chest. I also solved the poem in about two hours— I just had to use my “inmagiation”. Cograntulations on your solve.

  43. Let me try this again. My computer is not having a good day.

    Well, taking a break this afternoon. thump thump thump_________thump thump thump. Anyway, When I had seen this thread I kinda laughed for no reason. I was thinking, I know the connection because it was so important. Actually, it is the end of the road in the poem IMO. So I had posted this on TTOTC.COM because it is related to the chase. Feeling better now because I can talk for days on what I know.

  44. Well, taking a break this afternoon. Anyway, When I had seen this thread I kinda laughed for no reason. I was wondering I know the connection because it was so important. Actually, it is the end of the road in the poem IMO. So I had posted this on TTOTC.COM because IMO it is related to the chase. Feeling better now because I can talk for days on what I know.

  45. I followed the comments over here this morning and laughed my butt off. This was one of the more fun threads in a while…with all of the jesting/humor and such. Good stuff…

    • Maybe if you try it in a stew and add a lot of seasonings, you might not know the difference, my friend. (Giggle.)

  46. FF, that photo of the guitar pick is a little teaser that I appreciate. Thanks.

    In my opinion, don’cha know.

  47. pdenver,

    Our yard is second home to squirrels and a host of various species of birds; bringing me much joy and laughter. The property also invites hawks who delight in the semi consumption of squirrels and various species of birds.

    Crows are very intelligent beings, and I welcome several as frequent visitors. We have an ‘agreement’ that if they will protect the squirrels and birds; their requests of food and fresh water will be accommodated as much as possible. I used to be a bit ‘spooked’ until I learned /shownbetter!

    Hawks don’t enjoy coming over here any more. Seems they’ve gotten the hint of being Crow ‘mobbed’…. with vengeance! (If you’ve never witnessed families of Crows literally conducting air attacks against predators; well, you might be able to get the picture.)

    I hope you will enjoy the following video when you get some extra time, my friend:

    Life’s Good,


    • Thanks for the link SL, gotta love the nookies:)
      I once had a huge wolf malamute and the crows would not leave the poor guy alone, I would have eaten crow had I been armed.
      On a side note, I had the pleasure of a visit from a badger early this AM. To see that guy scurry up a steep slope was fascinating. His legs were so short they didn’t show as he quickly high tailed it in tune with spellbound grace.

      • The poem is like a song a story of a man in your life in the past, present and future,. You look with your eyes and hear the sound of the poem of the words that show the hem to be followed, the poem says about the art of this Man his architecture in it espressa in poem of what he sees and saw, the different way to understand an architecture as in the moema, but the reader has to know the tone of the notes of this architecture, since each word has its tone its meaning in the history of this one Man, pore that SR FENN took in the poem and his map, his letters and joker are to help the finder find subtle words lightly expressed in his 4 letters of his stories told in them, because he tells the person that find my treasure will have studied My book my poem and will not take a step if wrong wrong until my treasure he wishes to find, more in this puzzle game SR FENN has added a unique keyword in his poem that resolves every way all the way and track to the search engine enoughFinds it in his poem, which is not easy, but I believe that with all his questions and commentary and history in his book will help facilitate your search for the gold chest, your comments your question and the answers that the searcher places found find Part of the mystery as well as some words placed subtly in your 4 cards, play wisely to find your destiny …

    • Hello SL.

      That is a great video! To see the crow stay with him is amazing. I was surprised to see it enjoy being touched the way it was. I would love to do something like that. Years ago, I had different squirrels I was able to feed by hand and have them crawl on me. I would give some food to the neighbor kids so they could experience it, too. I continue to feed different birds…sparrows, and doves are mostly what comes around. Occasionally, I’ll have a hawk and find sparrow or dove feathers on the ground. I don’t see many crows, but they do show up now and then.

      • I made a promise to my parents that I would never turn my back on those that I was in a position to help. It wasn’t limited to people.

        You warm my heart, pdenver. I think you really ‘get it.’

        • Thank you for your kind words, and for showing me the goodness in your heart. It warms me to see this, my friend.

          • THE POEM
            Read the poem with your eyes, listen to your sound of words, this is a story of a man about his present and future past, a painting or architecture of his work every word represents this man and his story, just so you will know eu Seek
            So this one of the verses (listen to me)

  48. RHONNY,

    Will take heed of your suggestions. Your help is appreciated and you seem very wise!



  49. Forrest,
    Back 40 years ago in my days of upgrading Minuteman missile sites around Rapid City, SD, I occasionally drove to Wall, SD on Sunday mornings to enjoy their signature cinnamon rolls for breakfast, Once, in the Badlands National Park just south of there, I collected a fine specimen of a well-dried buffalo chip. Why? Because it reminded me of the native Americans, early explorers and settlers who burned those dried droppings in long-ago campfires and fireplaces to survive the elements on the open plains. After 40 years, I still have my chip (it’s a little worse for wear) and will bequeath it in my will to my oldest son. Why? Who in Hades knows?

    • adrian
      nice story. i wondered for a moment if the tc was disguised in/as a cast bronze cow patty.
      how crazy is that?

  50. Last time I held one of these Magnolia pods, I used it as a cruise missile aimed at my older brothers head. I was the middle of three boys, my older brother tortured me and my younger brother pestered me and hid behind momma.

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