Winter is Here…


by Forrest


Snow covers the north end of the Rocky Mountains so it’s time to shut it down for this season. New Mexico and parts of Colorado are still snow free and temps in the 60s. Good hunting, but please don’t search in the snow or mud. And remember, the temps are down in the low 20s in places. f

106 thoughts on “Winter is Here…

  1. It appears the reference to June 2017 was in error – I believe it should say November 2017….and Forrest is correct that the Northern portion of the search area is starting to get snow.

    • CO-
      You are correct. June was my error. To speed things up while I was formatting this page I copied the previous page from Important info…which was posted in June. Then I deleted the original content…and pasted the note from Forrest on the page…except I forgot to delete “June”…so it remained..
      Anyway…Forrest just sent that at 7pm Saturday night….in November…the first Saturday in November…2017 on the Gregorian and Hijri Calendar…Chinese year of the Monkey…

      • Thanks Dal for the update. Also if you did your basic training in the Corp at Camp Pendleton, you may have ran into my father, he was a Gunny DI and ran the Range.
        Thanks again

        • *Rooster, Dal. Year of the Rooster…you can’t keep all these hints to yourself, now 😉

          • Dal -.Next year is the year of the Brown Earth Dog:

            The 2018 Chinese New Year Day is on Friday, February 16, 2018 in China’s time zone. This day is the new moon day of the first Chinese lunar month in the Chinese Lunar Calendar system. The exact new moon time is at 05:06 on 16-Feb-18 in China’s time zone.

            Chinese calendar combines solar, lunar and 60 Stem-Branch counting systems. The 60 Stem-Branch calendar uses the names of Yin Yang Five Elements (Metal, Water, Wood, Fire and Earth) and 12 animals to rank the sequences. Five elements are connected to five colors – White, Black, Green, Red, and Brown. So Chinese use the color animal name to count the year. The name of 2018 is the Yang Male Earth Dog. Brown is connected to Earth. Therefore, 2018 is also called Brown Earth Dog Year.

          • Hey Jonsey1, did you know the brain of an alligator is about the size of a green pea! I think Dal is messing with us. 🙂

          • Thanks, Lisa. I never know about the elemental/color qualifiers attributed to the Chinese New Year. I learned something new today!

            By the way, just for giggles, does anyone know what Chinese Zodiac Year Forrest falls under? I know under the Western Zodiac, he’s a Leo.

          • Thanks Dal… Wow can you believe the temps here in the PNW? I can’t believe all the snow we’ve had already…

          • Spallies-
            It’s like WY here. I’m not pleased about this weather. I’ve been complaining to the weather channel since Tuesday but they don’t respond to my emails.

          • Blex -. Forrest was born in 1930, which is the year of the Gold Horse.

            The Horse occupies the seventh position in the Chinese zodiac, after the Snake, and before the Goat. Years of the Horse: … 1930, 1942, 1954, 1966, 1978, 1990, 2002, 2014, 2026…

        • I certainly spent range time at Pendleton..October/November 1966 Edson Range…barracks and food was much more civil there than at MCRD. Felt like a human bean again 🙂
          Snapping in was very painful. I remember some DI sitting on my back and bouncing trying to loosen me up so I could put my chin on the ground from a sitting position. I hated that..

          • OH, such fond memories! And yes, it IS possible to put your chin darned-near on the ground in the sitting position. Ah – Youth! Elbows tucked into your boots for added stability 🙂

          • Dal that’s awesome, Dad was skinny tough man and one of his favorite lines was ” you ever been hit with a ham bone on a string” obviously meaning his skinny arm and hard hand. They called him KO and he spent a lot a time at the NCO club unfortunately drinking way to much. I’m sure he was disliked by many a grunt. He was a good man that got me out in the woods at an early age. I passed that on to my kids as well. Thanks for the reply

        • trailblazer, did you by chance know Stan Millar? wayyyyy back…boot camp sergeant there and friend of the family

          • Sorry did not know of him but sure dad did. He was stationed at Pendleton from 64 till he retired in 73. Did 3 tours in Vietnam setting mines.

  2. Forrest,
    Four years ago today we searched Sinks. It was brisk! But not bad. Clear with a bit of snow here and there! Wonderful memories
    There were other hikers on Nov. 4th. Be safe everyone.

    • Of course not to encourage people to go out now. It’s snowy up here in the high Rockies!
      SINKS is lower down. And it was a fall day. Awesome place.
      Thanks for suggesting it.

  3. Ha!
    I just mentioned this year end suggestion on The theory for when Forrest hid the chest.[for a reason] “…it’s time to shut it down for this season.”
    I couldn’t have planned it better if I tried.

  4. Forrest – Thank you for the warning. We had snow last night on Baldy and here on the valley floor n Sun Valley, and it is supposed to be down to 15 degrees tonight. And those that know my situation know I can feel that down to my very bones right now. So goodnight all.

  5. Thank you ! I plan on spending the winter researching and pinpointing a staring place as I am new to the search, however whether or not I find the chest, the real.yreadure for me will be enjoying the outdoors with my family.

  6. Good advice. No one is going to find the chest in frozen terrain. Wait for the thaw folks unless you’re searching in Colorado or New Mexico, and even those places need to be handled with care right now. It’s been there “several” years so I say it can wait. Besides, no one’s life is worth unnecessary risk. See you all next season.

  7. Yes, thank you for the heads up, Forrest and Dal. I’ve been watching the weather closing in, and decided that another trip this year is out for me.

  8. If you are looking in a place that doesn’t have snow right now, I’m sorry but you are WRONG.

    This tiny little post carries a lot of weight because I think it 100% confirms or excludes certain locations depending on weather/temperature.

    Just my opinion, but this is one of the most helpful posts in the past year.

    • The ole coot said we could find it in any weather just a heads up in case you didn’t know

        • Precisely JDA! After thousands of hours of study I think the spot where the chest is sitting is so precise that one will know exactly where to walk before leaving home. Nothing about it will be accidental and the chest will be there waiting. I get goosebumps when I think about it.

          • YUP – YUP. I just put in the coordinates of where to cut-off of the main trail, to go directly to where it is! – or so I hope – JDA

        • Hi JDA – Are you planning another trip this year? Snow can be a hindrance and a danger. While I think it’s possible to find the chest even with some snow it wouldn’t be much fun even if it took a few munutes.

          • No plans at present. It is up to my team. If they see a window of opportunity, and want to go, and I feel that it is safe, off we will go, but no plans as of now. JDA

        • Could someone please tell me what was written on the sign over the schoolhouse doorway? I can’t remember & I don’t have a book, thank you in advance!

  9. Safety First! I have never been in the Rockies during winter months, I can only imagine how breath takingly beautiful it must be at the first snowfall of the year.

    • Matt,
      I not sure if the pic at the top of this thread is one of Goofy’s… [ if you didn’t know already ]
      Personally, I’d like [ if possible ] a dedication page to display more of his collection of works… many of the pictures take me to places I never seen. The diversity and variety of the landscape in the US amazes me… his works captures and pulls me into those arrays like a magnet.

      Just a thought.

      • Seeker – Here, hear. Kudos to your idea. I love Goofy:s photos here on Dal’s also, and would love to see titles and details about the locations.

    • @Seeker, thank you very much, I’m happy you enjoy the photos. But I don’t think it would be right for me to have a page just to showcase my photos; this site is about the chase not my photos. There are many great photos here sent in by searchers during their searches, and we also have a page for searchers to send in their photos. Everyone should be sure to take a look at them.

      @Matt, you are correct the Rockies are beautiful in the winter and there are no bears, or bugs, or tourists, even most of the meth heads have enough sense to go sit by the fire. Which is why I love searching in the winter, and I heard a rumor that my effort would be worth the cold. 🙂

      But you and Fenn are also correct, the Rockies can be especially dangerous during the winter. I’ve wandered the Rockies most of my life, am well equipped, and I’m going to be there anyway so I might as well search. Folks shouldn’t fill their mall certified four by four with equipment at Bass Pro Shop and head to the mountains without any experience. I’ve actually come across people stranded on the side of the road in the Rockies reading the instructions from their brand new fire starter kit.

      Conditions in the Rockies can change in a matter of minutes. The line between a wonderful day and absolute disaster is very thin in the wilderness.

      • So very well said Goofy! I hope all heed your good advice. Let’s get through this winter recess period with no casualties or calamities – TRY to STAY SAFE ALL – JDA

      • So many beautiful photos. Thank you Seeker & Goofy. Not the same as being there first hand. Hopefully, God willing, my wife and I can retire into the Rockies somewhere within the next 10 years – sooner if we had a treasure chest 🙂

  10. Thanks Forrest, I will keep my secret where?
    Where you will (hopefully 20 years off) rest for eternity. A martini toast to you my friend!

    • I see he is not afraid to mention Colorado!!!!!!!

      He mentioned New Mexico and Colorado and said good hunting.
      There you have it it’s not in Wyoming or Montana

      • HAHA – He just said that there is no snow in NM and Colorado, but there is in Montana and Wyoming – and
        since it is in Wyoming, take your pack off ’till spring 🙂

        Funny how we read what he says through our own rose colored glasses 🙂 JDA

        • That is pretty much how I read it. He said since there is snow in the Northern Rockies we have to shut it down. Combined with – and parts of Colorado and New Mexico are snow free makes it sounds like it has to be in WY or MT.

      • Well, hit the reset button! Now I have to rethink everything Amy!

        Back to the drawing board if it’s not in Wyoming or Montana!

  11. Could you be any more obvious Forrest? Thank you for letting us know and keeping us safe. Thank you too Dal. When you’re in the chase, long winter nights are not for making babies, they’re for studying, thinking, and plotting your course. Of course.

  12. I’m not sure where FF is getting his weather report. I was plowing through 3+ feet of the white stuff yesterday in the Rockies of Colorado yesterday. If FF said the TC was accessible all year, then maybe NM is the place to search.

    • He said “parts of Colorado” like in the parking lot of the Natural History Museum…

  13. My how the chase has changed since 5 years ago and most likely because all the people who ain’t careful. Shimmy up that mountain diggin it ain’t like you to quit sound familiar lol 25 below zero you know the adventures I have had hiking thru snow Falling in snow drifts and haveing to climb out Intrepid searcher all year round for some of us who love the thrill it’s just in our blood

  14. Most any weather, I believe he said. Doesn’t that mean at least one weather condition you can’t?

    • I’m guessing that zero visibility from a blizzard or fog would make it hard to find the clues even if you knew what you were looking for.

  15. Thanks for looking out for us, Forrest. Heartbroken not to be able to make it to the book signing, but from here in No CA, it was just too far to walk. 😉

      • Between the Lone Tree of 17 miles and the house of light just south of fish town, too far to walk from the coasting scream–but only just (LOL!!! 🙂 Are you recovering after the horrible fires, Jdiggins? Enjoying the sprinkles of rain…

  16. A lot of people were displaced this summer due to bad weather,let’s hope the same doesn’t happen in winter. Stay safely at home until spring everyone.. Happy holidays,.
    Thank you Forrest and Dal for the reminders.

  17. Question for bloggers that have been on the search for a few seasons; Has Forrest posted a message to shut down the search due to snow or weather in the past seasons?

      • Thank you Cesari, was wondering if he posted because of the young man that ended his search by not listening to Forrest and attempting a search that was completely out of the realm of what was physically possible for a man at age 79. He’s a good man looking after all, snow at any elevation can be dangerous at any season. Have a good winter

  18. Someone should hid some treasures out in the warm parts of the US. Get the kids out in nature. I saw a Bald Eagle where I lived this summer, always wanted to see one of them!

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