Looking in Colorado…



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  1. Please folks, dont attempt to take a “box store” inflateable raft in the Arkansas R. during the spring or early summer. Imo,
    FORREST DID NOT use a raft in hiding
    Indulgence. Above 600 cfs flow the Arkansas can be deadly for wading. Trust me, I had a temp job working for USGS water resources, and was in the Ark. far more than I liked.

  2. ps… look at it this way, from Minneapolis to New Orleans, the Mississippi R. only drops an av. of 0.68 ft/mi. From Buena Vista, Co. to Can(y)on City, the Arkansas drops 32.1 f/mi.
    (3 stories).

  3. Colorado is close enough for Fenn to drive there and back in one day.
    Colorado is the least mentioned search state in Fenn’s stories.
    Driving through Colorado is the only sensible route from Temple to Yellowstone.
    In SB 101 Fenn said: “I thought some small college in Colorado would give me an honorary PhD in Anthropology or Physiology. But they didn’t.”
    Fenn’s response to a Colorado residents E-mail: “I agree that you are in an ideal location from which to search for the treasure.”
    Fenn’s comment after Paris Wallace’s death: “No one knows the dangers that lurk in the mountains more than those living in Colorado.”
    And Preston’s infamous line about Fenn leaving his car in the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.
    Just some of my observations…

    • Also in SB 107 Colorado is the only search state that appears on the back of a $5 bill.
      “He Who Teaches a Child Labors with God in His Workshop.” is inscribed over the east door of Kepner Hall at the University of Northern Colorado.

      Interesting that UNC was originally founded to train teachers for public schools and was called “Colorado State Teachers College” until 1935.

      • Our current governor misinterpreted Colorado’s Headwater State status to claim once (on-air) that all rivers in Colorado start in Colorado; no river starts in another state and runs into Colorado.

        Which is nearly true – except for the Green River, which is a pretty big exception.


    • Colorado = red = red herring = smoked kipper = fishy smell = stinks = not there!

      (With apologies to all Colorado searchers, and only in my frequently screwed-up opinion!)

      • Why add “herring?” why not apple, or cherry, or brick, or blood, or rover, or cards, or beard, or robin, or Baron, or tailed fox, or some other Red…?

    • I have to admit that Colorado is my favorite search state, but I don’t know exactly why. Maybe it is the mystique and lore of Colorado as the epitome of what we know as the Rocky Mts of the United States, or maybe it is in part because I live in southern Arizona, and WY and MT are so damn hard to get to from here. Of course NM is closer, but there’s so little territory to explore between Santa Fe and the CO border, and much of it is on Tribal lands or private land grants.

      I have searched one location in WY (Fenn Creek, can you believe it??), three locations in CO, and one location in NM (with no success of course in any). My research has produced about 13 HOB’s in the Rockies of CO. Now that might not seem like a large number, but bear in mind that these are not obscure references in some book or metaphorical concepts, but rather places found on published maps. By comparison I found 8 places in MT, 8 places in WY, and only one in northern NM.

      I have made a map of the Colorado Rocky Mts (including a small slice of extreme southern WY and far northern NM) with all these HOB’s, as well as other information related to elevation, land ownership, and important drainage divides/passes. The map also shows locations of some published solves which I am aware of. I made this for my own use but am willing to share it if there is enough interest out there.

      So let me know, all you Searchers paying attention to this site. Does this appeal to anyone’s interest?

    • Don’t feel alone. I also found more than one of the same home of Brown places you refer to in my own personal research. As to whether any of these are crucial to the Search I can’t answer at this point, but would not discount this possibility.

      • Your a kind person McK for doing this. Im not searching in CO, but maybe something will click for another.

        Good luck to us!

  4. I love Colorado. There is a direct flight into Denver from where I live. Why Colorado though? Im still devoted to Wyoming. Hopelessly devoted….

  5. I spent 7 days looking in southwestern Colorado the week of Thanksgiving, so Yes Virginia there is a SC, I mean TC in Colorado.

  6. Mr wife and I were seriously considering moving to Colorado to get away from the Pac NW rain and be close to my big bro. It’s a lovely state, but common sense prevailed as we knew we’d eventually be drawn to move back because of our children, which soon proved true because our granddaughter Emma was borne a few years later and is now the joy of our lives.


  7. There are many clues that lead me to Colorado. Although I have searched places in Northern NM and Montana as well. There are 2 places in Colorado that I’ve searched. Definately clues that appear relevant at both places. I feel that I am missing something, that I am right there. I’ve been tired, weak and in the wood every time…

    Good luck everyone.

  8. Go ahead, rub my nose it, but I deserve it. LOL.

    Like many others, sometimes I really hate spell check. So to correct my pathetic blunder, I meant to say “my”.


  9. Just dropped TTOTC and Wyoming atlas off to my father in Wyoming with my notes…meanwhile I’ll be covering the multitudes of search starting points here in Colorado and New Mexico. Happy to have my father in on the hunt with me!

    Stay wild!

  10. good luck to all who search the Colorado rockies but do remember the safety of it dress warm. winters can be harsh in a moment here there are a lot of bushes to look under here as a native of colo please be wiseand stay safe

  11. McKendree,
    Your map sounds interesting. I have no doubt that my HOB is not on your map. At least I’d be shocked if it were, of course. I’d like to take an appreciated look at your map… abq new key @ hot mail .com. Just get rid of all of those spaces. IMO, my solve is complete minus having the chest in my posession. Don’t count her out, glad to see that Amy is still in the game ! Oh yeah, almost forgot,.. I subscribe to this thread, not many others though.

  12. To anyone requesting me to email them my Colorado Treasure Map:

    My plan is to post the map on this blog site, with a short explanation. If this does not work out, or if the map is not readable because of its detail and scale, I might consider emailing it to individuals (as long as there are not hundreds of requests). I’m not sure anything of this nature has ever been put on one of the Search blog sites. It would be an experiment. Maybe Dal can weigh in with his opinion?


    • McKendree, Sounds like you have put a lot of time and talent into this offer and I would love to see what you produced. How can someone request a copy? I suspect that you are correct in that the, “map is not readable because of its detail and scale,” and that prohibiting Dal’s site from posting it and doing it justice. How can I take advantage of your generous offer and order a copy from you? Thanks!

      • Send me your email address. I have so far heard from three other persons with requests for the map. Please realize that this is only a preliminary map for review and comments, not a final product. It is a form of beta testing to see if it is useful and how it could be improved.

        • I’m very interested in seeing (and of course sharing comments and data on) your map, McKendree.

          All of my real searching has been in the Colorado River drainage part of the search area (waters that eventually reach the Grand Canyon, from the Green River WY to the San Juan NM, and all the waters on the Colorado west slope).


          * = @

        • McKendree, That was very kind of you to offer to share your creation. I often wondered how someone could produce such a complex work of art. If you would send it to: exec dir @ unit edchris tians .us it will be forwarded to me (trust you know that without all the extra spaces in the email address, this blog will not allow this posting). I would appreciate that very much and would be happy to provide any feedback you desire on the beta version. Thanks, again!

    • If it’s not too late, I would love to see a copy of your map. I would love to take a trip to Colorado in the Spring – it would be a fun adventure (treasure or no treasure).

      Thank you.

  13. Colomtnman, I am not the one distributing the map. I am not the maker of the map. I only requested to view said map. You can relay your email to McKendree.

  14. 53 mountains in Colorado are over 14,000 ft in elevation, if we could effectively flatten those out, it would be a state bigger than Texas…

    I feel Colorado is definitely in the mix of where/how to find Indulgence, ff mentioned that we need to look at the big picture, that is a very big picture, perfectly framed by its 4 borders, the only question I have about that elevation is his telling us that the TC sits between 5,000′ and 10,200′ in elevation, and its near a mountain top?

    So just to level the playing field what mountain top of those 53
    14 ers has a unique place near its summit that might be 5K to 10.2K ?

    Logic is sometimes lost in our imagination but I am going out on a ledge or use some common knowlege here and state that IF indulgence is near one of those beautiful giants of the Rockies Range it will be a very close plateau or ridge with some safe approaches?, but no human trail nearby?, sounds like a calm place and must have an approach where an 80 year old or your grandkids could walk safely?

    Any Ideas? Garden of the Gods get’s two thumbs up for it’s name, Glenwood and Browns Canyon too… but you Colorado people know your state better than me, all I ever do is ski there and use to Kayak some when I was not fishing… since you live there and I live in NM. Talk me through the terrain.


    • Tom,

      I’m working on CO, too. Gaining a “comprehensive knowledge of geography ” during the winter months. I live half time in Santa Fe, half time in Massachusetts and just spent the weekend exploring the southwestern corner of CO.

    • Hi, Tom Terrific. If the Colorado 14ers are a possibility in your solve, there is no better resource than the website 14ers.com. Lots of route descriptions and trip reports with photos posted and it’s all organized per individual peaks.

    • TT – Mt Evans and Pikes Peak both have driving access to the peaks…easy walk IMO. As for areas less than 10K’ elevation, that is typically below treeline in most of CO, a look at any topo will show that the area increases quickly as you come down from any peak, so you’ll likely need a lot more specifics/other clue linkages to get anywhere (imo). Given FF’s statement about ’79/80 yo wouldn’t go up and down a canyon twice’ (paraphrasing) I think it unlikely he’d be climbing mountains…and 96% of 14ers require 1 way hikes longer than 2 miles (and most trails starting above 8K). Now, I’m not trying to say a 14er can’t play into a solve in some way, just IMO I don’t think the final spot is near one. You also might want to look up how many peaks there are above 12K’…again, better have some very good linkages to pinpoint an area IMO. Good luck, good to keep thinking on new things during the winter.

  15. I think it is in Colorado. I can’t get there till early summer besides it is even cold here in oklahoma. No point tromping around in snow where I am going……definitely not wading in the freezing water. . I saw that meet up post but I can’t plan out that far.

  16. Ok, I’m going to chime in here. I’m a Colorado native and have spent alot of time in the mountains and canyons of this state. Please, people keep your head square on your shoulders out here, as beautiful as it is, it’s dangerous too. Phones don’t always work, weather moves quickly, temps can go from 50s to below freezing in less than an hour. If you plan on going out, tell people where you are going, when you will be back and stick to it. Don’t change your plan without telling anyone.
    You can’t find the treasure if your injured or dead.
    Just remember, stop and ask yourself, could an 80 year old man do this?

  17. Our map of Colorado from 1896 arrived today. I’m surprised how many more names there are on this map vs more modern ones. Good representations of all the Railroads at the time.

  18. Lucky you.I’ve been looking at those rr maps on line. Hard to see. Specifics. What would be even cooler is an old trail map and not just the main ones.

  19. Speaking of maps I have the following paper ones from back when I used to run around there. I do not need them besides I won’t revisit these places as they make me sad as that was back when my husband was alive. If your a hiker or need them for the search let me know. Some are in good condition some not so much.
    I have the following: 7 USGS 7.5 min quads : Cheesman Lake, Farnum Peak, Cripple Creek north, ,Como,, Dakan mt, McCurdy mt, Cripple Creek South
    2 National Geographic Trails Map:
    Pikes Peak Canyon city and Tarryall Mrs Keosha Pass
    3 BLM maps:
    Gunnison, Leadville and Bailey
    Don’t want money just trade for a cool ball cap, xl t-shirt or something simple from where your from. But take them all.
    If your interested email me at Amanda.Jimenez@EarthLink.net

  20. Blower 8″ Big Pow day at Loveland yesterday and more overnight. Whiteout most of day but lower elevations mostly clear. SW CO in major drought and searching will be good. Bears haven’t hibernated in Durango this year so don’t go down no dark alleys!

  21. How kind of you to search an area for someone else who is unable to. I hope the snow doesn’t impact your search area’s. If it does, just remember until the TC is found, there’s always tomorrow! Good luck with your hunt.

    • We’ve searched for others several times so far. I really like it as we wind up in paces I would have never thought to go to. Also learning what snafus and probs one can run into, which helps me in mine, as well.

  22. What I have found is that I’m more impeded by large metal bars closing areas off than I am by any snow or ice. That was definitely the case this week! Grrr….

  23. If “riches” mean money, then…
    1. the profile of Lincoln on a penny can be overlaid almost exactly on eastern edge of the rocky mountains in Colorado. (Saw this on the tv show, Blacklist.).
    2. And only eligible state listed on back of $5 bill (Lincoln Memorial image) is Colorado.
    3. Colorado is the eligible state with city called Portland as in $10,000 bank note.
    4. Forrest’s pilot idol is buried at Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs.
    5. Quarters, dimes etc mentioned many times minted in Denver.

    On a side note, Brown, (a lady from Pueblo) gave her hair which was used in Vietnam War era for ‘crosshairs’ in airplane targeting equipment. She was recognized and got a USA award for it.

    Just my two cents on Colorado.

    • Forrest’s pilot idol chapter mentioned “break glass”. And Glass is Signature of Treasurer. Forgot to add that above in #4.

      • And there is a great ‘marvel’ in both Steve Canyon & from balcony looking east.
        Both in Colorado.

        Colorado Rivers have ‘bathing tubs’ on side of canyon.

        James Brown bridge, Brown Cabin and Brown Tram Route near Estes. Molly Brown and Rudyard Kipling have ties to Leadville.

        Colorado 1\2 way between Temple, Tx & Yellowstone.
        Colorado is chock full of many possible clues! (But I’m still a MT fan)
        CO is the only state he doesn’t mention in TTOTC, I think.

        • He mentions Colorado indirectly in “The Long Ride Home” when he says they drove across five states to get to Temple.

    • doublecrossed74

      “The end is ever drawing nigh;

      This tells you it’s in Colorado? I have never heard that before. I am of the opinion it means to pause and figure out where you walk to next in order to experience heavy loads and water high. Enlighten me?


          • Thank you-I was getting self conscious about it after I posted it! LOL! The “As I”; part was really, really bothering me-so I kept looking for something-anything-and I came acrossed this- “AZI” means Big Horn Sheep, or there antlers-there is a Big Horn Basin in Wyoming?? Anyway-I will go back to my hidey hole now!!

          • Hi Sandra;

            Just one small comment. Deer, elk and moose have antlers – antlers fall off each year after the rut. Sheep, including Rocky Mountain Sheep have horns. These horns never fall off. Each year, another “ring” is added, and the horn gets longer. Rocky Mountain sheep are found throughout the Rocky Mountains – in all 4 states – FWIW – JDA

    • doublecrossed74,

      I take “nigh” to mean either “near” or “left”.

      I too am curious how that put you in CO or are you trying to double cross us to get an answer that you can’t figure out? 🙂

      • nigh (adv.)
        “near,” Old English neah (West Saxon), neh (Anglian), common Germanic (cognates: Old Saxon nah, Old Frisian nei, Middle Dutch, Dutch na, Old High German nah, German nah, Gothic nehwa), with no cognates outside Germanic. The Old English progression was neah – near – niehsta, for “nigh – near – next.” But the comparative near and the superlative nehst (see next) gradually evolved into separate words not felt as related to nigh. New comparative and superlative forms nigher, nighest developed 14c. as phonetic changes obscured the original relationships. As an adjective from Middle English.

        • 2nigh
          Definition of nigh
          1 : close, near
          2 chiefly dialectal : direct, short
          3 : being on the left side the nigh horse

          • adjective, nigher, nighest.
            near; approaching:
            Evening is nigh.
            short or direct:
            to take the nighest route.
            (of an animal or vehicle) being on the left side:
            to be astride the nigh horse.

        • doublecrossed74,

          Yes we can both agree what nigh means, I take it for you nigh is near. This still begs the question how is it “nigh” prompted you to search in Colorado other than the state you live in? 🙂

  24. Would you mind explaining what you mean by that. Of course I would not want you to give your solution away. Thanks


  25. Okay, guys-I am a bit of an ADHD type-I have no plans on ever actually going out and physically looking for this thing. I just wanted to throw some notes and ideas I had-which now-some are not very good, sorry. But, a few may have merit. Noone has found this thing yet, doing all the things everyone is doing now-I thought a bit of new material might shake somebody’s brain in a new direction-that is all!
    Good Luck!

  26. any updates to this thread?
    ive only been here about 6 weeks but thought that id chime in..

    anyone know when the last time FF piloted his plane was?

  27. Had a great time in the mountains this past week. Well, except for one incident…

    We were at one of our destinations (ABOVE one possible home of Brown) about 9000 ft. We banked off the trail a bit and I noticed a small pond with the remnants of something wooden that had collapsed. I walked up and looked in when all of a sudden I heard a LOUD noise. Sounded like tall bookcases falling over and lots of snorting. My gf said “what the heck was that?” She thought it may be a large bird flapping its wings in take off. My first thought was “Grizzlies charge first and make noise later” We never saw anything but it came from a large clump of bushes/brush/trees. I withdrew my weapon and she prepped her bear spray. We backed away and walked a different direction. We contemplated continuing our hike up the hill but when we returned to the same spot we heard the same commotion again. “No treasure is worth fighting whatever this thing is” so we backed down the hill and did not return.

    I think it was a Moose we disturbed. We never saw anything but it sounded very heavy and irritated. Scary incident overall.

    • I thought I should post for those searching in Colorado. I would hope everyone is aware of the 10 wildfires with in the state before they put botg. Stay safe and be fire aware, things are very dry, don’t park over try grass, Stage 2 fire restriction in most of the RMs for Colorado, including New Mexico. I’m bring this up only because I live in CO.

        • Wildfires covers it all. 😉

          I’ve found InciWeb to be the most comprehensive site, frequently and reliably updated. You can scroll and zoom all over the west from the same master map and see what’s what, what’s where, and what’s happening.

          The link below is focused on the big Spring Creek fire in Colorado, but you can roam around the map at will (just like google maps or topozone.)


          (just back from some wonderful camping hiking painting time up the Poudre River with our oldest daughter)


  28. First time looking! Read ttotc 10 million xs
    Pouring over maps. Am heading out to Colorado in early October. Going to do ALOT of day hiking. Have ONE area in mind. Just a quick question, how is the weather out there in early October?

    • All depends on how high you are (in reference to the elevation, not how many edibles you’ve consumed).

      Up in the mountains, snow in September is not uncommon. But not, generally speaking, raging blizzards and drifts.

      Down on the front range first frost is, roughly speaking, 1 October.

      No guarantees, of course, but I’ve multi-day camped very comfortably in pleasant Oktoberfest-type weather up to 8,000 ft many times in October. It’s also hunting season, so be aware of where you are. And like anywhere else it might rain.

      On typical nice days you get up cold and make coffee in the frost, are down to shirt and shorts by noon, and start adding layers as the sun goes down.

      Which brings up a big point – available hours of daylight decrease rapidly in October; sunset is about 6:40pm at the beginning of the month, and 6:00pm by the end of the month (add 15 minutes for the western front range). And of course the terrain you’re in can affect that time very measurably. We usually plan to be off the trail and back in camp by 4/5pm latest for a comfortable supper before dark. So get an early start.

      Adjust accordingly if you’re used to roughing it.


  29. Jake – cabin address is 32087 so that is 32 miles and change from the old Ted’s Place…less than a mile west of what was Rustic (where I worked off and on for almost a decade). I had a home on Crown Point Road, just across the river from the family cabin for 11 years; my kids were born there and my oldest daughter went to the one-room school house for a few years. Wonderful memories and still a great family gathering place as often as we can all get together. I just returned from a week at our cabin and couldn’t help but reflect about what we call “home” – it’s the place where our deepest emotions and sentimental attachments live.

    • That’s fantastic, Sandy!

      When our oldest was here a couple-few weeks ago, we had lunch in Glen Echo/Rustic after getting soaked climbing Mt McConnel in the rain.

      When I first moved from New England to Colorado (40 years ago this fall – holy jumpin’!), I had a friend who worked at Indian Meadows, and I spent my first two weeks in Colorado there while looking for a job and a place. Mishawaka was wild western swing, and the townsfolk away over in Walden were trying to keep us nekkit hippies out of the hot spring.

      Though I’ve never lived up there full-time, my young yankee self fell head over heels from the very beginning, and not a year’s gone by that I haven’t been up there for one thing or another many times every year. (And I’ve never left Colorado for very long since I got here.)

      I can so appreciate your attachment and your memories.


      • Jake…so funny. I just hiked Mt McConnell a few days ago. Who was your friend at Indian Meadows? Sounds like we have crossed paths or as Forrest would say we have met at an intersection or 2…Walden hotsprings definitely was on the radar and my wedding reception was at Mishawaka. People still tell tall tales about THAT party. The Venn diagram of life….

  30. Buglady…Can’t resist to tell of the glories of Colorado in Sept & early October. The Aspen trees put on a show that in my opinion is an ace in hand when played against anything that New England can throw down.

    Ante up with layers….you can peel off if need be…but don’t let the weather deal you a bad hand off the bottom….when the Sun goes down
    in the Colorado Rockies…..so does the mercury.

    Don’t bet the ranch by being unprepared. If tent camping….NEVER keep food in your tent and follow all the rules of the Junior Woodchucks.

    Wishing you a rewarding and successful
    “I Have Seen It Raining Fire In The Sky”

    • How so? Not aware of any BIG canyon that starts in Montana or Wyoming and ends in Colorado. Sorry, you are going to have to exp0lain if you want any of us to believe you – Just sayin’ – JDA

  31. I keep coming back to Colorado for my solve; IMO the other states are too far from NM, and I don’t see many public lands which coincide with warm waters, or anything “Brown” there anyways.

    I’m stuck on Brown’s Canyon, despite the many people who’ve already scoured it and it’s far-too-obvious connection with the poem… the following is what I have so far drawn IMO:

    begin where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down: browns canyon warm springs on the north end of the canyon near hecla junction.

    not far but too far to walk put in below the home of brown: the put in on the south end of the canyon over three miles south of the warm springs (not far, too far to walk?)

    from there it’s no place for the meek: the trespassing sign on the gate closing off the stone bridge to cross to the railroad tracks – a meek person would not trespass.

    the end is ever drawing nigh, no paddle up creek, heavy loads water high: nigh means left, head left once you cross the bridge and you’re headed up creek. heavy loads, water high would be railroad gulch.

    if you’ve been wise and found the blaze: why would you need wisdom? wisdom is not intelligence, it’s experience. but one of the first synonyms for wise on google is “sage” – the blaze must be in the sage which lines the river and gulch.

    it’s not a complete solve, but hey, from NY I can only armchair search for the most part. I went to Brown’s Canyon a few months ago and was thinking of returning next month, but it may not be worth it if I haven’t come up with a complete solve.

    It just bothers me that the girl in india can’t get past the first two clues with just the poem and map – so why should I be able to? I need to get out there and actually SEARCH in order to get a complete solve? but then again, he also said you won’t find it by chance, you’ll have read and re-read and moved with confidence… how can both of these be true?!

    • “[…] how can both of these be true?!”

      In my opinion, it’s not really so much about knowing exactly what and where the clues are, or exactly where the chest is, but knowing what you are looking for next. Once you figure out the correct WWWH, you should be able to figure out the next clue. This can maybe be done from a map (little girl in India). But once you find the second clue, the rest may not be labelled on a map; you have to actually travel there based on your confidence in your first two clues. Then, when you have made it to the second clue, you look around and you see something that simply must be the third clue, so you go there, etc.

      Put another way, if my wife sends me to the store to buy milk, I can walk into any grocery store with confidence that I will be coming home with milk (unless they are sold out). I don’t need to know exactly where the milk is in the store, because I know that milk is usually in the dairy department (clue), which is usually along one wall (clue), and I will know I have found the dairy department when I see refrigeration units (clue). From there, finding the milk is trivial. Even if I have never been in that particular store before, and even if the layout of the store is not the same as the stores I have been in, I can proceed with confidence with my “milk solve” beginning at the entrance (first clue).

      You don’t need confidence in your destination; you need confidence in your starting point (WWWH) and in your method. The poem will take care of the rest.

      I’m reminded of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. He didn’t know in advance what the traps were, but he knew to expect them, and he knew not to proceed through each one until he understood that trap’s clue. His destination was uncertain and his clues were unclear, but he had confidence in his approach. Others who had come before had proceeded without confidence, walked out of the Grail’s “poem”, and died. In fact, Indy himself *almost* walks out of the Grail’s poem early on before he realizes what it is that a penitent man does. He should have played one more round of Canasta before his search and thought more about that particular clue, but the chain of events didn’t give him the option. 😉

        • Hi imperfekt,

          The way I have it is as follows:

          Warm Waters – Cool Springs

          Take Canyon Down – South

          Not Far – Drive

          Home of Brown – Cheyenne Mountain

          No Place – Bridled Horse

          Drawing Nigh – Taps

          From here all the rest falls in place for you and all that sees this post…

          GOOD HUNTING…

  32. I took a quick vacation this week to escape Hurricane Florence and drove to Colorado to scope out the location I came up with from the poem. Guess I should have paid attention to when hunting season is. WHAT A BUMMER. Hiking is not allowed this time of year. Coming up with this location was partly by luck and using the words in the poem just as they are and literal interpretations.

    The last couple of days I have taken a different approach to the start point in the poem starting from “If you’ve been wise…” and finishing at “If you are brave…” coming up with a different location that works if you don’t pay attention to the first third of the poem. My solution for this location came about by being creative using NASA, geology pubs and other web sites.

    I have 3 questions to any who would like to join in:
    1. What is the current thinking that the starting point must be at “Begin it where…” line in the poem?
    2. Do all lines in the poem need to be considered as clues individually or can they be combined to make a clue?
    3. With hunting and hiking allowed at different times of the year; is the exact date known when Fenn hid the treasure?

    • Hello! I’m leaving for my first BotG trip in four days and can hardly contain my excitement! This is also my very first post so…hello everyone! I’ve had my solve for a long while and just like you I literally took the words and matched them up with the map. I’ve been spending my time trying to prove my theory wrong and talk myself out of spending real money to go on a wild goose chase. It’s been about a year and a half now so…it’s finally time. I had a bit of an edge with the solve in that I used to live where my search is located (Yes, yes I know. Confirmation bias to the extreme, right!) so most of my solution just kind of jumped off the page at me. I’m 85% certain that I know what the blaze is but that’s where the BotG come in. I’m eager to see if it pans out!

      In regards to your questions:
      1. Forrest himself has stated that the first clue is “Begin it where”. For my solve, I actually didn’t figure out what (*I think*) he meant by that until after I had (*I think*) solved some of the other clues!
      2. From the perspective of my solve, I think a few are combined. Personally, I believe that there are entire sections of the stanzas of the poem that are meant to orient you or to describe what you’re looking for (i.e., the blaze). But, like everyone else, I am just guessing. And quite possibly molding the clues to fit my solution.
      3. I had absolutely no idea that you couldn’t hike during certain times but it makes perfect sense in hindsight! I am now terrified that all of my plans will be thwarted! I don’t know that anyone has asked him when he hid it. I read through all of his comments and answers over the years looking for something that would disprove my solve but I don’t recall that question being asked. That’s a good one!
      Happy hunting!

  33. Shane;

    Welcome and good luck with your search – In answer to your question – look here –
    Forrest Gets Mail From a Middle School Class – The answer is in the summer. JDA

      • And I gotta say, even though I just started posting today I’ve been lurking for about a year and I’m a big fan! You always seem to have helpful words and an encouraging attitude…traits that are hard to come by in this day and age! Happy hunting!

  34. Let’s try this again…

    Was anyone BOTG in CO on Oct 16th, wearing a greenish jacket? If so I think we have the same solve. Saw you leaving as I arrived.


  35. I have a really good solve everything fits just one problem can’t get in there. Private property through a locked gate with no trespassing signs and your exposed and the locals don’t care for people running around there with out of state tags. I don’t think it was like this a few years back. the chasers and the teenager parties there may have contributed to an unhappy land owner.
    I guess i will start looking somewhere else. I am convinced it is in Colorado. I think he was home and drove north but made it back for late supper.
    My home of the brown is Native American related

  36. Looking for a Colorado partner as I am out of state. I believe I’ve solved most of the puzzle but obviously not the most important part. I need boots on the ground to go further. Anyone want to enter into a legal joint venture with me?

    • Hi garnets — revisiting this page after ByGeorge jumped to the conclusion that I had admitted here that my keyword was “ankh” (which it most certainly is not). ByGeorge must not know the movie “Logan’s Run,” and thus missed the joke.

      If you yourself don’t know the movie, Logan and Jessica escaped the city to “Sanctuary” (i.e. outside) by using a key in the shape of an ankh. So I was simply making a joke about how an ankh is a “word that is key” (at least in the movie). There is no connection between that word and the Chase as far as I’m concerned. Hopefully that clears up any lingering confusion.

      • Zap,
        Really? You’re blaming ME for what YOU wrote? If 2 people reach the same conclusion due to YOUR WORDS then maybe you should look in the mirror for the problem! I didn’t see anything you said that had a “haha” or “just kidding” or “thanks for the laugh”.

        Good thing “EYE” cleared up your mess eh? How can you blame someone else for your own words? Did I make you type that? Did I hold a gun to your head? I surely didn’t POST under your comment did I? So how can you blame me for GARNETS reaction? That’s some petty sh*t right there!

        HEY GARNETS…STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!!! You’re making ZAP look bad!

        • ByGeorge: I can’t be held responsible for your ignorance. Sarcasm doesn’t work if you have to explain it. Please feel free to ignore my posts if they upset you, but I’m not going to dumb them down just to placate you.

    • garnets,
      Hey, IMO there is no “key word” to unlock anything in the poem. IMO there’s only 1 thing that the poem represents and it’s not a “key”. I asked Zap the same question in the “KEY WORD” discussion board but in a roundabout way because of his post above. How stupid of US to read ZAP’s post and think such an absurd thing!

      Carry on garnets!

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