The Madison River…

POSTED APRIL 2018
BY CYNTHIA

 

I could no longer endure this winter’s wait… I needed adventure and I needed it now. 

On page 120 of TTOTC, there’s a picture of Forrest as a youngster standing at the end of a wooden table, displaying 11 large trout. The caption below the photo says “A good day on the river, I was twelve. What fish we couldn’t use we traded for potatoes and other goods. It’s what kept us going during the war when my father was making $4,000 a year teaching school in Texas.”  I wondered if that could be the reference to the line in the poem “and hint of riches new and old”. Those fish were a commodity the Fenn’s traded for food… could they be the “riches old”? And if so, then what? Where do we go from there? 

At the top right on the same page are the words MADISON RIVER. The Madison begins at the confluence of the Firehole and Gibbon Rivers at Madison Junction. Everyone who searches Yellowstone already knows this… it is probably the most popular WWWH in the eight years of Fenn treasure hunting.

And if you’re still not convinced, look at the sentence at the end of the opposite page where Forrest wrote, “But as I got older, I realized there were many moments to remember, like the time I sat under a tree on the Madison River and watched the osprey dive for fish as I wrote a note for my wife…”  The chapter concludes with the sentence “And when my tackle box is closed at last and the cadis hatch is gone, I will rest through all of time and space, pillowed down and scented in, with a smile that comes from remembering the special things that brought me to that final place, one of which was knowing Peggy was there, somewhere, waiting for me.”

It seems to me that last sentence in the chapter titled Flywater just described his “special place”, his final resting place… a place that is private and dear to him… and where he ultimately hid the treasure chest. He mentions Peggy… is it where he sat under a tree along the Madison and wrote her that note? Is the underlying message of his poem his final love letter to Peggy?

On that same page are words or phrases similar to the words in the poem… personal secrets, space was mine alone, I know, watching the waters deepen, and words “special”, most “dear”.

Even if this idea is on the right track, the Madison River flows 183 miles from Madison Junction to Three Forks, Montana. (You could glean even more hints for the Madison River in the chapter Looking for Lewis and Clark, where Forrest wrote about Osbourne Russell and Jim Bridger.) 

But where to start… I don’t like Madison Junction as where warm waters halt. I want to find a warm water spring nestled off the beaten path but not too far from the banks of the Madison River. There are a few to be found on a detailed map but the actual search will have to wait until late May or early June, when the weather settles down and the search becomes less COLD. Forrest did write, “You’re effort will be worth the cold”… if he means this literally, how much cold do I have to withstand to find his loot? 

I have a dismal feeling that I’m a good 7 years behind Dal, and Diggin Gypsy, and many folks who have already made various trips to search the YNP area, including the banks of the Madison River. I need a plan to catch up… so I thought I’d start now, using the process of elimination to help narrow the field.

I had been watching the extended weather forecasts for Pocatello, Idaho, Henry’s Lake, Ennis, and Three Forks, Montana for a couple weeks. I needed a 5-day window of drivable roadways to get from New Mexico to Three Forks, where the Madison ends (I also included a couple days in Gardiner/ Mammoth Hot Springs), and back home. My plan was to actually drive along as much of the Madison as I could so I could eliminate areas… I had already seen much of the river inside Yellowstone last fall so could skip it. This trip was intended to see the river from Hebgen Lake downstream all the way to the end.

I was out the door before 5am Saturday morning… it’s an easy drive from Rio Rancho up Hwy 550 to Rt64 to head west and north to Cortez, Colorado, Moab, Utah, etc.  I stopped for a moment along the road just north of Nageezi, NM, to get a shot of this sunrise. This alone was a wonderful reason to get an early start.

Then I continued north through Canyonlands where the road skirted Wilson Arch… I pulled into the parking area to take a picture but decided I had to climb up beneath the arch where I could see others milling around. It was worth the effort, on hands and knees here and there… wow, the view was incredible. Descending was worse… on hands and feet and butt… moving like a hermit crab down the precipitous side back to the parking area… well, that was exhilarating, and I was grinning… Yep, this was already an adventure!

In 12 hours after leaving home, I was pulling into my hotel parking lot in Pocatello, Idaho.  I almost wished I hadn’t made reservations so I could keep on driving… the adrenlin was pumping and I couldn’t wait to cross Raynold’s Pass and drop down to the river. But I knew Sunday was going to be a long day so tried to sleep.

At daybreak I bolted from bed, skipped the free breakfast and headed north to Idaho Falls, then northeast to Henry’s Lake where I turned northwest and crossed the Continental Divide at Raynold’s Pass. It was magnificent with the snow and the sunlight making it’s way through the cracks in the whispy clouds above. 

It wasn’t long until I reached the Madison at the Raynold’s Pass Fishing Access area. I pulled into the parking area, grabbed my gear, and walked along the river downstream a bit. It was beautiful, but not where Forrest hid the treasure chest, IMO… there were barely any trees. 

On MW Forrest said: ” Stop arm chairing that thing to death and get out there in the trees where the box is, but before you go, look at the poem as if it were a map, because it is, and like any other map, it will show you where to go if you follow its directions.” Yep, I feel like I’m not following the directions… at least not yet. I needed to drive upstream towards Hebgen…

The scenery did not disappoint… it was absolutely magnificent. I decided to use my cell phone to make a few videos. I held it in my left hand which I steadied on my side mirror as I drove. There was little traffic… I think it was 26º. My hand got cold but I didn’t care. I was on a mission… then I accidently dropped my cell phone as I was driving. Oops… thank goodness it bounced away from my truck, and landed face up. 

I stopped many times to get out and take pictures… I will spare Dal the inconvenience of posting so many in this story; instead, I will post a link to them at the end. (I included captions to describe the places.) 

By the time I got to Grayling Creek, the sky above West Yellowstone looked ominous… like Forrest had a direct line to God and they were warning me to turn back. So I did… 

From there I made my way back along the Madison and continued my journey downstream on Hwy287 to Three Forks, Montana, stopping at each of the fishing access areas to peruse the liklihood of Fenn’s loot hiding in the vicinity. 

The next photo is from the Lyon Bridge… yep, I count that as a possibility to “marry the clues on a map and see where the lines cross.” There are trees.. a forest of pine trees along one bank, and easily accessible, all year long.

Eventually the terrain became a wide valley… the photo below shows a herd of elk lying in the field… the river is behind them, and I don’t see trees… 

I continued on to the Lewis and Clark Hotel in Three Forks… it was a small town, but charming… probably… on any day except Easter Sunday. Nearly every eating establishment was closed… and I was starving! But I didn’t care… I was ecstatic… I had accomplished my mission. Here is the link to my SmugMug pictures for that part of my trip.

CLICK HERE

But wait, my journey and  reconnaisance trip doesn’t stop here. I planned an extra two days to stay in Gardiner and drive into Yellowstone National Park  to visit Mammoth Hot Springs and see wildlife… the 4-legged variety. (There was also some wild life of the 2-legged variety in the Two Bit Saloon in Gardiner, but that came later.) 

I had never visited this part of the park before. There are pros and cons for visiting in the winter… it is COLD…. 16º Tuesday morning as I made my way through Mammoth Hot Springs and on towards Tower-Roosevelt and the Lamar Valley.  Even though the road is open to traffic, that doesn’t mean the road is bare… driving through the hilly, windy forested area where the sun seldom shines was gut-wrenching, at least for someone living in NM who seldom has to drive in snow or icy conditions. I went slow… there was little traffic so I had the entire road to maneuver.  

I saw billions of bison and elk… not literally that many but A LOT. I stopped stopping to take pictures of them and continued on to Slough Creek where there were supposedly wolves seen that morning. By the time I got there, they were gone… how do I know this, you might wonder? Because the career wolf-pack-watchers were gone… the SUVs and pickup trucks with the big anntennas and surly people with the gigantic lenses, so I was told. 

Part way through the Lamar Valley, I decided to turn around and head back to the Terraces in the Mammoth Hot Springs area.  It was still a pretty day, albeit a bit windy and still bitter cold, but I definitely wanted to see them.  It was one of the best decisions I’d made the entire trip… I fell in love with the upper and lower terraces. It is a photographers paradise.  (One of the pros of a winter visit, less people…)

Once again, I will spare Dal the hassle of including them in this story… here’s the link to the Yellowstone photos, with captions on most of them.

CLICK HERE

I want to make sure everyone who reads this story understands I did nothing dangerous to put myself at risk. I even used my better judgment and postponed a drive through Yellowstone Monday the day I arrived, when it was snowing, blowing, and visibilty was horrible. I hated the thought of another YNP Fenn treasure searcher having to be rescued… or worse.

I also went extremely prepared… I had snow shoes, snow boots, 2 pairs of hiking boots in case one pair got wet, a winter ski jacket, hat, gloves, enough food and water inside the truck I could have lived in there for a week, as well as a shovel, chain, and flares.  

I did not actually search for Fenn’s gold at any particular spots… because I haven’t found the place to begin.  But now I have a better understanding of the terrain.

I also drove home by way of Rt191 from Bozeman to West Yellowstone before dropping south into Idaho… holy moly! This is a must-see drive for anyone in the area who has never seen this canyon and the Gallatin River. 

Now I’m so confused… this canyon and river is as beautiful as the Madison… and Fenn was a fishing guide here so would know the area well.

I have 6 weeks to solve the poem… then I return.  

As a word of caution, I hope anyone who plans to search in any of these areas looks at my pictures to understand how much snow is still there, especially in the trees. Don’t be stupid!  Go prepared and always tell at least two parties where you will be, and check in with them every day. 

I saw these words on a plaque in the lobby at the Lewis and Clark Hotel…

“Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,

but by the number of moments that take our breath away.”

I am fortunate… I just had many!

Cynthia

April 2018

168 thoughts on “The Madison River…

  1. Nicely done Cynthia! Around 4,900 bison in the park in case you are curious, but I know the feeling that there are “billions”. Gallatin is a favorite drive of mine too, and in 10 years I only know of one time the road was closed but several times it should have been! Good thoughts on not being the next searcher rescued in the park. We need a good careful summer to improve our reputation in that area. Headed back in a few weeks myself, but I am sure the snow will remain. See ya there this summer!

  2. Great write up of your adventures! Y’all have a lot of extra winter this year hiding that chest, hopefully you melted a little of that snow with your passion for adventure!

  3. Good to see that country with lots of snow moisture, Lamar Valley my favorite place in Yellowstone. It’s subtle so you have to spend some time letting it sink in. Sllough Creek campground is great place to hang out. this a favorite time of year for the “Loons” with their scopes … look them up online. Most are really sweet people and will let you look! Enjoy your Early Spring stay. take care.

  4. could you inform me more about the area around gardiner? i have some questions about specific travelling and flows of rivers that you ventured on. i live in tennessee, so i just get to talk about it and maybe help someone with ideas.

    • Stephen, I’d love to help you out by answering your questions but I’m not the person to ask because I just saw it for the first time. Maybe Sledneck can help you. Sorry.

  5. Cynthia, Great pictures of some beautiful country up there. Good to hear you made it back safe. I think you should postpone your trip back until next year.

    • Oh, I forgot to mention that after driving 2500 miles in 6 days (I know, DG is rolling her eyes over that measly number), I wasn’t home more than 2 hours in warm temperatures which was awesome after that bitter cold, and I was already yearning to return!

  6. Another excellent story, Cynthia. I LOVE your photos. The wolves in Lamar Valley are definitely tricky to locate. They’re usually there fairly early in the morning, and again in the early evening if one is lucky to spot them. There’s also a pack along Hayden Valley, as well as, Mary Bay, but not sure if they moved. Saw pups there with their parents several years ago.

    • Constantly on the move. This winter the Wapiti Pack dominated, being seen from Lamar to Mammoth to Old Faithful to West Entrance.

      • Thank you, Sledneck. This is great to hear. It’s been a while since we’ve seen the family at Mary Bay. It was cute watching the pups play; there were four of them. Last year, we saw a black and two grays adults in Hayden Valley. They were at a fresh kill. We’ve been seeing them quite often in this area. A few years ago, the pack was seen tracking an elk herd in the same general area. It was the first time we saw the pack swim in the river to cross.

  7. Wow Cynthia! Such great photos!!! So glad you were smart about not going out in the bad the weather! I do have a question where does Rt (hwy) 191 drop into Idaho I got lost on that part? Thank you so much for sharing for all of us stuck still stuck at home!!!

    • Hi, Spallies, I left Rt 191 in West Yellowstone and continued on rt20 from there into Idaho. 191 goes into the park through the West Entrance, and I believe heads south through the park and into Wyoming.

  8. Cynthia,
    Finally some great stories from us out there early in the season. So many armchair hunters that post on this site. Im still kicking around NM.
    Love your descriptive writings. Cheers, Dogbone

  9. Cynthia…as usual…your pics and writing are great! Good for you, getting out and scratching the itch…mine is killing me.

  10. Thanks for letting us live vicariously through you. Glad you are smart, prepared and stayed safe. Did you make it to the Gallatin Gateway? Can’t wait to head back that way and to Gardiner!

  11. Thank you Cynthia. I drove by that Reynolds Pass sign many times, but I never saw it with snow on the ground. f

  12. Very nice Cynthia! You know that I love your writing and your photos are stunning!
    I’m glad that you made it home safe!

    Tom

  13. Cynthia;

    Lovely post – Thanks for sharing. Beautiful pictures.

    The next time you pass through Pocatello, and do not let me know, I’m gonna get mad 🙂

    I would have loved to meet you, and share a cup of coffee or a meal – Looks like you had fun. Again, NICE post – Thanks for sharing. JDA

    • JDA, I didn’t realize you live in Pocatello. It’s 12 hours from my place to it so the next time, I’ll call ahead and we can meet for dinner. I’ll let you grille… I’m carnivorous!

    • JDA,
      I’ll for sure let ya know if I’m ever passing through your neck of the woods k…. (sounds like a future motorcycle trip to me)… lol see ya my friend… take care…

  14. That was a great trip. And I admire your photography.
    Your identification of the place under a tree where F wrote a letter to Peggy as the special place is the location to search. To me it has to be there, under that tree on the Madison.
    I imagine that place being west of Bakers Hole where fishermen would catch the gulpers in the early morning and late afternoon. The south side of the river would provide shade under trees on the shore. If one of those trees has since then fallen from the weight of all of FF’s lures having been caught in it’s branches, that would be the spot.

  15. Cynthia,
    Thanks for the post.
    Your gorgeous pictures help make the treasure hunt come alive.

    Clearly Clueless

  16. Thanks for sharing, Cynthia. It was a good read and the road trip looks like time well spent. I agree with your strategy of narrowing down the search zone to forested areas.

  17. Great story and pics Cynthia!

    Next time you’re at Madison Junction check out that small group of trees to the South of the Madison information center. Buffalo use those few trees as a scratching post.

  18. Cynthia, Beautiful boots on the ground report.
    Thanks for sharing it with all of us.

    It brings back great memories of family vacations…and refreshes the gypsy spirit in my heart…
    GCG

  19. Wonderful pictures! While reading, it occurred to me that a moderate amount of snow could help reveal warm springs that might otherwise go unnoticed.

    All: please do not use that observation as a reason to “brave” unwisely.

    • Yes, Seph, As I drove into YNP from Gardiner, I noticed steam coming out of the river, or near the river. The side road to get to it was closed. When I got back to my room, I got out my maps to see… it was where the Boiling River enters the Gardner, I think. I googled it and it sounded like a great solve, until I saw that 200 people visit it every day, when it’s accessible.

      • Totally worth it to go in the Boiling River, but they close it until late June-July, because otherwise the runoff water’s too high… We made a special trip just to go in there. Magical! I go back there in my mind all the time. Yep, lotsa’ people…

  20. Nice story and pics Cynthia! I went to Yellowstone twice last year, the first in the summer, and the second was at the first snowfall of the year. I saw exponentially more animals in the snow, especially bison. It wasn’t easy to travel down the road in spots because of the herds of bison crossing the road and cars stopped in the middle to get out and look at them. I saw a black bear on the hill on the north side of the Madison river too :).

    I was prepared for the cold, and I thought I was prepared for light snow. I could not go to some spots I wanted to as I do not feel the need to take any risks. My feet ended up cold and wet. It’s worth seeing the animals that time of the year but not worth looking for treasure.

    Love Yellowstone, and will be back there soon too!

  21. Thanks for the report. Your photography is wonderful!

    Sounds like you found plenty of treasure. That’s a successful trip in my book.

  22. Cynthia,
    Enjoy your writings.
    First mistake… you skipped the free breakfast?!? Big.. Huge !!

    Second, and this is not so much a mistake as a suggestion. A place like “Raynold’s Pass” shouldn’t be over looked as a simple mountain pass [ depending on how you see the line; NFBTFW ] I use Reynold’s Pass as an example only, because I have looked into the possibles of these places being “in the wood” as a mountain passage [ saddle of a mountain passage, idea ].
    Did you know the pass was originally call “low pass”… names have change in some of these location. And if you like the idea of names helping with clues, the idea is more about; ‘low’ as a geographical elevation pass and might fit into ‘descriptions’
    of the land traveled, more than the name itself.
    foot note; this line of thinking also give credence to Dal’s idea [ recalling from memory ] waters crossing a now know boundary line and returning to near the same location. [NFBTFW, idea]
    These methods of reading the poem seem more like a tour of fenn’s special place [being larger than some would think and others would hope… the driving between clues group for example or that ‘big picture’ thingy] This idea does seem possible if you like the idea of fenn being the tour guide, line of thinking, and the poem could be miles and miles in length. [ giving the idea of 10 miles, from the second book, a little kick thought of a full scale, and not so much an unknown distance of a single clue. ] Yep folks, I do listen to what ya’ll say…I just see things slightly different.

    I could almost see this ‘travel’ as fenn’s last look of his riches new and old…

    You, Dal and others are perfect examples of how the poem could read this way… you stop and smell the flowers [ in theory ] at locations fenn might want the poem to lead to… places he has gone to, over time, within his special location. { lol, Zap might have fallen off his chair right about now, wondering if I have a split personality or a few }

    Just a thought… didn’t help me much arm-chairing.

    However, I did like how you decided on a location, by the book, and the reasoning behind it. The idea of; “…certainty of the location beforehand”

    • Seeker, since you mentioned “…places he (FF) has gone to, over time, within his special location…” I emailed Forrest for his permission to post his words to me after I sent him this story last night. He wrote: “Great story. Do you know that my mother died about 100 feet from Lyon Bridge? They were spending the summer in that little RV park where my mother had a pansy garden. You can add that if you want to.”

      I would have added this to my story but Dal is so efficient and quick that he had posted the story before I could add Forrest’s words.

      • Cynthia,
        This is why, in part, I believe fenn stated in the book ~ warn the path would not be direct…. certainty of the location beforehand.
        IMO, the path refers to clue’s ‘references’ only. Sure, we need to decipher the clues, but first and foremost we need to know where. Many will disagree with what I’m about to say next… WWWH will not give that up… { politically correct ~ imo}
        Hence, the idea of the Q&A Nope, Nope. Call it background info, call it getting into fenn’s head, call it deliberate or subtle… I think the information within the stories surrender the ‘location’ as to mean; “help with the {all} clues” and not so much answer a clue reference.
        While many may not have known [ specifically ] where fenn’s mom past away… your example in the book is a very good idea of how fenn could have subtly call it a hint, that would “help” with ‘all’ the clues.
        There could be a [ bending of words ] connection to stanza 1… “As I have gone alone… ‘and’… with my “treasures…” In this case, “treasures” may not refer to gold and trinkets, but who he treasures. Gone, both alone and with others, “over time”
        Even the thought could pertain to “riches new and old”

        LOL, I’d bet some will use Lion Bridge as a hoB connection, and/or brave and in the wood, But apparently from one of your other stories… fenn kinda ruled out hoB related/ associated/ dealing with, at least, with that particular clue and a structure.

        Just me, Rambling and Wondering……………

        • Seeker, I think I understand what you are saying… I think I might even agree. Yikes… Ha ha…. just kidding. The Lyon Bridge itself does not have to be the home of Brown… why can’t hoB be the “place”… not the bridge/structure”. If a flood takes out that bridge, and is never rebuilt, the place will still likely be referred to on MAPS as Lyon Bridge, whether that structure is there or not. IMO. Plus, there’s lots of good fishing at the confluence of the West Fork there where it enters the Madison, right? Maybe “no paddle up your creek” is the West Fork… and I’m not saying where the wwwh is located, but there is one, at least on my map.

          • Cynthia…thank you for sharing your inspiring and enjoyable travelog. I always look for a “west fork” in my solutions after reading SB #107 umpteen times. The forks face west in the drawer! Also, I like the possible wordplay/ word similarities between Lyon and Leon Bridges, also Renelle and Raynold and as FF spelled it, Reynolds. Specific stories have been shared with us for a reason, and I like to pay extra attention to the stories that have been shared more than once in various revised forms. Hope to see you in June!!

          • Nice post on word play Sandy.
            There are a lot of parallels presented in the posts. Interesting to note the Raynold’s Pass which shows the Continental divide and the barrier between Atlantic and Pacific. Fenn spelled it Reynolds which some may find interesting as it pertains to the characteristics of water and how it flows. The principles are used in the aircraft industry as well. Boundary layers…and so on. Cool post !
            Happy hunting….

          • Hi Cynthia –

            I hope no one reads this but you. I don’t want to argue with anyone about Fenn’s recolections.

            I believe Fenn’s mom died in the West Fork Cabin Camp and it is still there. The marker for Raynold’s Pass is down river at the next Bridge. (And I think your pic of the sign was of the one back at the border and not the one at the historical marker at Lyon Bridge.)

            If you skipped it, you should visit the sites of the other bridges including 3 Dollar and Varney.

            Some might even contend that the whole of this chase takes place between the latitudes that represent these 2 bridges.

            Lugnatz

  23. Awe Cynthia excellent report & pics as usual. I’m not done with NM, I hope to get to Yellowstone before it blows up LOL. Speaking of “Pass my house” re: jd’s comment, you passed my house leaving SantaFe heading north. Givee a shout out.

  24. ‘I needs adventure
    and I needs it now’

    Marry me, darlin’. You’re the best reason I have for following the chase!

    But where’s Molly?!? What does/would she think of Bison?

    I still think that you are one of the folks who Fenn sez was 200′ from the TC. So while you’re up on your wild goose chase in MT and WY, I’d be happy to have her join me and my dogs as we retrace your steps down in the land of enchantment.

    • I missed Molly riding along with me, enjoying the wildlife, too. Unfortunately pets are not allowed on the boardwalks inside YNP, so she had to stay home.

  25. Cynthia,

    That photo of a valley there on the Gallatin River was my favorite spot to fish and camp a little farther down the river. The very first part between Bozeman and Big Sky is certainly no place for the meek

    Excellent write up and photos. I wish you the best in your future search.

  26. Great story Cynthia. I’m waiting for July.

    Your last picture of the Gallatin River near Crown Butte is very familiar to me. I have searched the Gallatin there from the park boundary all the way to the 320 Ranch. No treasure but a beautiful valley. I even bought a lithograph by the cowboy artist Gary Carter entitled “In The Eighth Month Of Winter” which was painted just a few hundred yards further ahead where the Mississippian rock outcrops start.

    The White Bear tribe of Indians lived on the Madison just over the other side of the mountains there. One year they decided to join Chief Joseph’s exodus and a few of them took a back route over the mountains all the way from the Madison to Yellowstone River, crossing the Gallatin right there where you took that picture. They surprised Joe Brown and his mates at the Henderson Ranch near the Devil’s Slide. There were shots fired but everyone escaped that scene.

    • Thanks, Muset, for the info. I think I saw a Joe Brown Trailhead along the road to Gardiner near Yankee Jim. Is that correct? hmmm, just another home of Brown, out of many.

      • I have actually searched there twice as there is also a Joe Brown boat put in close to there. The second time was because I could see a letter “B” or “8” on the hill between Joe Brown creek and Slip and Slide creek. There is also a section of trees that make an F just North of the Fish and Wildlife section near the 3 little ponds going up slip and slide. There are also cabin ruins believed to be a former home of Joe Brown (he had a few in that area). Plus up the trail you get great views of Paradise Valley. Hopefully soon I will get time to write up my solve for that spot with photos. Warning though, that trail is no place for the meek (bring bear spray as there were two attacks last summer near there) and you likely won’t see another person the entire time you are there (for anyone who goes).

    • Hi Muset,

      Fascinating–do you have any idea if they went over Buffalo Horn Pass (just south of Ramshorn Peak) into the Tom Miner basin to get to the Yellowstone therebouts Yankee Jim Canyon? That’s just north of Crown Butte, and seems shorter than going up the Madison over to the Gardner R.

      adTHANKSvance, Seph

      • Cool question and sorry I didn’t find it until now. I don’t subscribe…

        There are a few routes over the mountains and they would have known about all of them. Each of those many watersheds have an ancient path up and over to the next canyon.

        The mission of those back route-way scouts was to steal horses. They took the route of most easy-to-steal horses, I think.

  27. Always a pleasure to read about your adventures,your photos are always awesome. I love your sense of adventure. When I grow up I want to be like you and brave like you. 🙂 Please keep in mind that cell phone use and icy roads don’t work well together while driving..could have been worse than just dropping the phone. Safe travels.

    • Onaut, that is good advise. I guess you wouldn’t approve of my driving along with my Nikon SLR in front of my face either. But the good thing about that is I can actually see through it with one eye so I can see what’s ahead before I hit it, or swerve… just kidding (wink, wink).

  28. Cynthia,

    Nice Pictures! Big Trip!

    The “Great Adventure” of adventures is to live and do what gives you pleasure!

    Stay warm, safe and happy.

    McB

  29. Cynthia-
    What I like most about you is your enthusiasm for the hunt. You constantly head out with fun in mind. You have not deluded yourself about the level of difficulty associated with understanding the map in the poem. You have not been beaten down by not finding it time after time because the trips are so enjoyable for you.

    You always have something more in mind than just looking for the chest and are open to whatever interesting place you stumble upon…always making mental notes about relationships between what Forrest has told us and the places you visit…

    You share ideas and you pose questions openly…

    Most of all…you are no dunce…you are cautious while still making every part of the chase an adventure…

    Thanks for everything you bring to the chase…
    dal-

    • Good point Dal, it’s so much fun just to get out and enjoy the beautiful scenery even without finding the chest. I find so much more ever time out there that it is hard to feel let down by not finding the chest.

    • Dal, we have a lot of problems in this country, but as long as we have people like you and Cynthia we will be OK. I am proud to know both of you and a lot of other great searchers like you. f

      • Thanks, Forrest… likewise. You created the Chase, and Dal created this community… I’m just along for the ride. I’ve loved every speed bump and every hiccup along the way… even dropping my iPhone X out the window driving along 287 didn’t make me flinch… I may have said a curse word, though!

        • I felt a slight physical twinge when I read that your iPhone X fell out of a window while driving. That device is an engineering marvel. I’m sorry for your loss.

          • My phone took it like a champ… bounced away from the truck with the face side up. Thank goodness for that robust case! I stopped, picked it up, and continued recording… but kept a tight grip on it from then on.

          • Whew! I dunno why I felt anxious about your phone, but I feel a lot better now, thanks 🙂

      • Thanks for the post Forrest. As others have said, Thanks for the chase – none may yet have found the Treasure Chest, but many, myself included, have found treasures galore – THANKS!!! JDA

    • Dal, thank you…I am highly flattered by your words… You are the Master of the Chase. You are the guy I wish to emulate… and beat to the chest. Ha Ha. Well, not really beat you there…. there would be no better ending and thrill for me than you with me to share the discovery of pulling that bronze box from its hidey spot (without a film crew.) You understand as much as I do, and many other Fenn B-O-T-G searchers, that this “hunt, chase, search” is about so much more than the treasures Fenn stashed inside the chest. You know my schedule… be there!

    • Cynthia–
      I love how you take so many pictures which add so much to your travel stories. I myself, always forget to snap many pictures on my chase, and when I’m back home, I don’t have much to show my friends of our adventures. bummer!

      Dal-
      I appreciate all of your hard work and effort to have this quality blog. It is amusing to get to hear and see the thoughts and travels of other searchers, and it helps me keeping track of my competition!

      Forrest-
      Thank you for your generosity and effort in creating “the chase”. It has been a real gift to have been able to spend quality time with my daughter, during a difficult time in her life. All our friends and family think we are crazy of course, but we know differently. We have made so many memories together which will last long after you and I are both gone. Who says we can’t influence the future? Thank you……
      1f Billy

  30. Beautiful! I am so inspired by you Dal! Your are amazing and I would title you to the gold. All your hard work and sharing is priceless.

  31. Many folks enjoy learning about a place they will visit before they head out there. I am one of those people and Yellowstone is one of those places…

    Below are a few books about the history and prehistory of Yellowstone and the region that I have enjoyed reading while preparing for my trips there. I hope you do too…

    Before Yellowstone: Native American Archaeology in the National Park
    by Doug MacDonald
    This is a new publication and is a fascinating account of what is known and what is unknown about Native American travels through and around the Yellowstone area…the resources they used and the traces they left behind.
    https://www.amazon.com/Before-Yellowstone-American-Archaeology-National-ebook/dp/B07B6L2Y6Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523136651&sr=8-1&keywords=before+yellowstone

    Here is a free paper in .pdf form about investigations into Native American use around Yellowstone Lake by Ann Johnson, an archeologist with the University of Montana in the 1970’s, 80s and 90’s.
    http://www.georgewright.org/01yp_johnson.pdf

    Here is another free paper on the archeology of the park with contributions by more than a dozen archeologists including both Ann and Doug.
    https://amykeildougmacdonald.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/southern-yellowstone-archaeology-2013-sample.pdf

    Here is a free kindle book on the adventures of John Colter, trapper, mountain man and member of the Lewis and Clark Expedition. He traveled around the park on several occasions.
    https://www.amazon.com/Account-Adventures-Trapper-Mountain-Yellowstone-ebook/dp/B01DPP0T34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1523138205&sr=8-4&keywords=colter+yellowstone

    Adventures in Yellowstone
    by Mark Miller
    This is a collection of true tales about visiting Yellowstone soon after it became a park when it was a truly exciting experience. One of the stories is about Emma Cowan who’s family was overtaken by Nez Perce Indians while visiting the park in 1877 and who was taken hostage by the tribe.
    https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Yellowstone-Early-Travelers-ebook/dp/B002T24SUK/ref=kinw_dp_ke?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2

    • Thanks Dal, how lucky to be able to work as archaeologist in Yellowstone. I have read about Emma and here family getting taken hostage and then released. Like the rest of the history of Yellowstone, it’s a great story.

      I’ve recently read The Guide to Yellowstone Waterfalls and Their Discovery. It’s a fun to read book about the numerous on and off trail waterfalls in Yellowstone their discoveries.

  32. Great share of your road trip, Cynthia. Since I’ve been only armchair-searching lately, it was inspiring.

    Your mention of “watching the waters deepen” means I’ll have to re-read that chapter. And maybe it’s time I looked up caddis hatch. Here’s one in Yellowstone ( http://www.flyfisherman.com/destinations/yellowstone-caddis-hatch-surprise/) and one in New Mexico that mentions the Taos box (http://www.edadamsflyfishing.com/rio.php )
    Hmmm. So many possibilities.

    • Thanks for the links, WH. The Taos Box is an awesome white water rafting trip for the not-so-faint-of-heart. It was the most exhilarating “sport” I’d ever done… I was thrilled afterwards because I lived! Forrest eliminated the Rio Grande last year so it’s no longer a valid place to search for his treasure, but like you mentioned there’s still fishing.

  33. Very nice Cynthia, I’ll bet you drove & hiked a big loop around the treasure in that area.

    I see you went by a gate gently closed.

  34. Cynthia, You embody the spirit of the chase, I thoroughly enjoy the stories of your personal infused challenge of adventure, and I especially reflect on your pictures that speak louder than words. I look forward to meeting you at the mini fennborrie in West Yellowstone this Summer.

  35. I went to sleep thinking about the Chase… and the many storied adventures with a wide cast of characters from all walks of life. “Thoughts” of all searchers and their journeys spilled together into this one posting of gratitude and hope shared by all. The rest is silence…

  36. Cynthia. I thought that was cool. The locals deal with way worse conditions.
    Probably harder with coffee in one hand and camera in the other.
    Just kidding. That is an interesting chapter. the double page of pictures make
    one big picture if you look at the borders. I think your on the right track.
    IMO. I am just a armchair. Keep working on it. Is below south is meek fording.
    Is this that. is it 2 places. Big connection to those 183 miles. IMO.
    Well anyway I thought that was great,

    • Good place for me to bow out. Seeing as I have no clue really.
      My meek comment I meant they would take the easy way not
      fording. just possible description for directions line. IMO.
      Anyway I think you are on the right track. Maybe this summer
      It would be even cooler if your group found it. I have my idea but
      yours maybe better. Nothing left to post. Will be waiting for news this
      Summer. Beautiful places to see. Best luck. That trip was cool.

  37. Nice post and great pics. Thanks for sharing. Good look in your searching. My vision is getting better. I might be able to read your book now. It has ben sitting here for a while. Reading the postings with a magnifying glass is one thing, braeding a book is another.

    Godspeed,

    Windy City

  38. Cynthia, thanks for the great story. Not sure if this is the correct solve or not because the chest is not in my hands but some information that may help you find the chest in Gods Country as Forrest has called it.
    The poem has pauses, delays, halts. Such as – and I can keep my secret where
    And hint of riches new and old. A pause is needed after where. A stall like WWH and then again when you find the blaze it is tarry scant, which means to linger or delay a short time. To pause, delay, stall , halt or a Gap. An animal Stall is interesting just as you hinted at with bedded down and scented in. Forrest is also bedded down and scented in with pepper spray in Vietnam. Forrest also tells of the story with his Moms shed for washing or watershed and Silver and Bessies Stalls.
    What I am trying to say is in the story about spices Forrest talks about Aromas or smells. One of them is Thyme. He refers to it as a routine smell. Which means agreeable, organized, pleasant scent. He goes on to say that the Greeks referred to the word as Courage. Courage means bold, brave.
    Now where can you find Thyme in this area you have been? It was the area where you turned around. Grayling. Forrest even says in the spice story he licks them off his Arm.
    Grayling is a fish with a long sail like fin. Also called lady of the stream. It has a distinctive Thyme smell. Grayling is also called the Brown butterfly. Now veil in etymology means sail, to drive or travel by oar or paddle. Sail is not to walk. There are soo many references I could give to you about grayling but I think its Thyme you look up the word and learn for yourself. You will find joy in that you did.
    Once upon a Time. Once upon a while, a while is delaying or stalling, halting, lingering, tarry scant.
    Thyme and Time. Much knowlege to learn here. Hope this helps in your chase Cynthia.

    • Thanks, DPT, your analysis of the clues, SBs, etc are some of the best ones I’ve read…. especially since I’ve changed my search area from NM to Montana. I guess none of us will know what’s right or wrong until someone finds it. I hope that happens this year… whether it’s me or someone else in any of the 4 states. Thanks for sharing this.

    • Cynthia, Wow – I just noticed the picture of Raynolds Pass and Forrest even commented on the picture stated that he had passed this sign many times and never seen snow there. Got me to thinking of Cold water and WWH.
      Look at the picture- William F. Raynold is quoted as saying “Waters” where waters divide.
      Also, if Forrest was going to West Yellowstone in the Summer why would they use Raynolds Pass? Tarhgee Pass is much close to west Yellowstone coming from the south correct? Why would Forrest drive by this sign many times?

      • As the sign at Raynolds pass also points out it is the Divide of watersheds. Notice the word watershed. Just like the shed his Mom did laundry in.

        • Cynthia, thank you so much for these pictures! I have been trying to find some confirmation in my mind to link the poem and a watershed/basin/well to wwh. The hints have pointed me to watershed/basin and these pictures confirm it for me.
          I will help you with what I see in the poem.
          As I have gone(pass) alone(set apart)(divide)in there.
          The first line helps understand the first clue but doesn’t help with the exact wwh. I still am unsure on the exact wwh but have pieced together many scrapbooks, TTOTC and the poem to understand wwh is a watershed/basin/well. These all begin at the pass or divide.
          Thank you both pictures of Raynolds pass say a lot towards confirming my wwh!!

      • They fished in Henry’s Lake, Idaho, near the top of Raynold’s Pass on the Idaho side. If ff and his family spent his years from 2 years old to 19 years old in YNP or West Yellowstone, that’s a lot of summers to fish every stretch of fly-fishing water in the tri-state area, isn’t it? IMO.

      • DPT, I actually don’t know the distances in miles but I guess you’d be right that reaching Henry’s Lake would still be quicker using Targhee Pass from West Yellowstone then going the other direction. Maybe ff and his father were like me… I hate repeating the same stretch of road if there’s another way to get back, even if it’s longer.

        • Thanks for the information Cynthia. Your insight is greatly appreciated.

          To add to the delay, halt, pause theory I mentioned above two other stories that Forrest has told puts me in line with such thinking and that is the first story on page 9 of TTOTC where he talks about Hanging the guy. Hanging around. And the story about his mother at 1 year old and they where Hanging laundry. Just an interesting theory I am working on. Thanks again Cynthia.

  39. Beautiful pictures Cynthia! I took a similar trip last year in April. It was awesome to see the snow in the mountains and parts of Yellowstone with far less traffic.

  40. Hi Cynthia –

    I have a question for you because you know Fenn so well, have had so many conversations with him.

    Would you describe the Madison River as in the Mountains?

    Lugnutz

    • Lug;

      Your question makes no sense. You say “…because you know Fenn so well, have had so many conversations with him.”

      But then you ask Cynthia if SHE “Would you describe the Madison River as in the Mountains?” How would her knowing Fenn, and having had conversations affect whether SHE would describe the Madison River as in the Mountains? The two things have no relations.

      If you want to bring Forrest into the mix, you should have asked Cynthia, “Based on your many conversations with Forrest, do you think that HE
      “Would describe the Madison River as in the Mountains?”

      Just an observation – JDA

    • Well, I have no idea what Forrest considers “in the mountains.” He considered the Rio Grande not in the mountains (where Randy died)… which I totally understand since it flows in a DEEP gorge, about as opposite from being in the mountains as it gets. My words… not his. I consider the Madison in the mountains part of its journey. This is why I had to see it… so I could rule out everything downstream from Windy Point Boat Launch. The Madison is definitely in the mountains IMO when it flows downstream from Hebgen to just above the bridge at the Raynold’s Pass Fishing Access area. There were stretches that were breathtaking… one I photographed which i used in my blog article, and it’s on the SmugMug link as well. Regarding where the West Fork enters and about a mile later at Lyons Bridge, I don’t know if ff would consider it in the mountains or not. I have a solve for WWWH in that vicinity so will search it based on that as my Begin it where… I have another wwwh too but won’t say where. Everything is in my opinion.

      I don’t think you can rule in or out specific rivers using their overall journey. I would use the portion that is in the mountains, so if Fenn hadn’t ruled out “not near the Rio Grande” last summer, there might be stretches of it in Colorado which definitely would be “in the mountains.” I don’t know that part of it.

    • Down along the shore in North Carolina they say Asheville is “up in the mountains,” which stand as the stateline over to Tennessee. When I drove along the Blue Ridge Mountains trail it looked to me like I was in the hills; I hardly call it mountains.
      But that’s IMO. I was born and raised on land that is about 5ooo ft elevation. (‘… in the Cascades.’)

      Listening to the local folks talk around places I’ve visited across North America, I’d say that as a general consensus and a general rule any terrain above 5ooo ft elevation, (where ff laid TC), is said to be “in the mountains.”

      You can take the boy’s dialect apart nary its diction, but you can’t the dialect out of the boy.
      QED: Forrest says, “in the mountains,” he simply merely only means ‘above 5ooo ft.’ He said so.

  41. The title of this post is the Madison River…

    Here is a question for all to ponder and maybe put in your two cents.

    Is the Madison river in “the mountains”? Are any rivers in “the mountains”?

    Lugnutz

    • Interesting question Lug, one I have not thought of before.

      In a general sense when a person says in the mountains to me it means up in between the mountains. In the middle , in the valley between. Or on the side of the mountain.
      Now a literal sense of IN the mountains would be a tunnel through or cave system. Have not thought of that before. Good question.

      • DPT,
        Well, If the chest is not in a cave, tunnel, mine… why would any part of the poem relate to any of them?

        Lugz,
        Not sure where you’re going with this, But how about “take it in” and “put in” as well -?- if we are questioning what “in” means.

        In {imo} means; establish, a system in place… a place, location, region, area

        The definition of In; enclosed or surrounded… and seems to relate to “within”…. Mountains ~ as the boundary of the range.
        But if ya got something else, am all ears.

    • Lug;

      Forrest has said that the treasure is “in the mountains” north of Santa Fe.
      He also has said, ““Generally speaking, there are places where one should stay on established trails; Yellowstone is one. However, it reminds me of the worn-out axiom, “If you ain’t the lead dog, the scenery never changes. When I am in the mountains or in the desert, the last place I want to be is on a trail. Ain’t no adventure in that for me. There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty (sic) to where I hid the treasure”. f

      When he said “in the mountains north of Santa Fe, he then elaborated and said in the Rocky Mountains – that go all the way to Canada.

      So, it appears that Forrest equates “in the mountains” to “In the Rocky Mountains. With these quotes in mind, I would say that “yes, the Madison River is “in the mountains” (In the Rocky Mountains” JMO – JDA

      • JD –

        Not to me.
        To me the river is the antithesis of the mountain.
        The river is along side a mountain, maybe between mountains.
        In the mountain, again to me, means up away from the river.
        Lots of chasers spend a lot of brain power exploring along the rivers.
        If you listen to or read his base statement, In the mountains north of Santa Fe… I just don’t see where he might have meant down by the river or in a box canyon a mile wide.

        Lugnutz

        • It is tough to say exactly what FF means in much that he says but to me Mountains just mean the range of mountains.

    • Lug,

      I’d like to think rivers, creeks, etc. as “on” the mountains at the same time within. Isn’t a canyon within the mountains?

      • CharlieM –

        This is why I am posing the question.
        I think creeks are in the mountains carrying water from the mountain down to the rivers.

        It’s something I am thinking about.

        Lugnutz

      • “In” the mountains would be correct also. It depends what a person is used to “saying” the same thing in different ways.

    • Lug, I understand what you’re saying and agree with your point of view. However, when I searched the west fork, east fork, and middle fork of the Red River in NM, I don’t think it gets any more “in the mountains” than those areas. Just saying…

      • Cynthia try to avoid the filter of 7 years of these blogs and scrapbooks and interviews.

        Listen to Fenn say it and repeat it in 2010 2011 2012 2013.

        He sounds to me like he means literally in the mountains.

        It’s not a figure of speech.

        • Yes, Lug, I agree that at least the lower stretch of the Madison River is not the spot because from Raynold’s Pass Fishing Access all the way downstream to the end, it is considered the Madison Valley, not mountains. So, I’ve crossed that off my list and won’t try to marry the clues to places on a map despite the fact the river is lined with pine trees in many stretches. But I still wouldn’t rule out the area between Hebgen and Quake, near where Beaver Creek is… that area was so beautiful and the Madison is wedged between two mountains, I think. I do believe you are right that when Fenn said in the mountains, he really does mean “in the mountains”. OMG, Now I need a recon trip to the mountains… forget the Madison. Ha Ha. I will go where the poem takes me!

          Thanks for pointing out what I already knew but hated to admit.

          • Hi Cynthia –

            Some chasers have thought something like: Well, Fenn bathed in the Firehole and he fished the Madison. We must be looking for a special bathing or fishing spot.

            I think we are looking for something different. Something more special that not many people have seen. Somewhere off trail or around the corner.

            So a spot in the mountains that is in relative close proximity to a fishing spot but secluded from it by sight and frequency.

            Lugnutz

          • Yes Lug! I agree, any fisherman who’s done it a while knows that there are just days/times that the fish are not biting, easy to see FF take a hike one day where the fishing was off and he stumbled onto something magical…as soon as I wrote that I heard his quote ‘no one will stumble onto it’ (the chest…does that mean the hidey spot too? gahhhh!) My first solve (under armchairs, wind river canyon) I applied this logic to the spot, that he took a hike from a known good fishing spot…have moved on from that spot, but the idea seems plausible. Does anyone know of any stories from FF about his dad/family taking hikes? Seems most of his adventures (non-fishing specific) seem to be with others besides his dad.

  42. If ya ain’t first your last I’m
    Just now seeing your story love love love it the new grandson has put me behind U be safe out there love the pics kinda good you went in the winter so you can tell where the treasure wouldn’t be. A lot of places you just can’t get to innthe winter so you can mark al them out have fun Cynthia

    • Thanks, DG… I’m pretty sure I’m last but that’s ok. The area of Yellowstone and Montana that I saw last week was breath-taking… Fenn’s loot is secondary. I can’t wait to hike some of the popular trails inside YNP and I don’t mean to search for FF’s treasure because I agree with you it’s not within the park boundaries. I still hope to share a margarita or two with you this summer!

  43. Hi there Cynthia thanks for the post!

    Thanks for sharing all the photos and the inspiration of the wiles of nature! its in my blood to breath the freshness of the wild just the smells of nature make me want to be there the fresh water the sights of marvelous landscapes snow capped mountains,wild flowers in full bloom all in while the hope to see something alive that inhabitants such amazing country that so many get to enjoy, its about the being there that envelopes my soul with nature sometimes i wish i could be Grizzley Adams in my best dreams! I think thats why Fenn holds the book flywater close to his heart because thats where is his true heart is i can relate!!! Jackalobe Hunter!!

  44. Cynthia, Thank you for sharing your adventure. I don’t know if I will ever be lucky enough to make it up to that area. I very much enjoyed reading your story and seeing your pictures.

  45. Your phone camera takes great pictures, glad you didn’t break it in the fall.
    Thank you for sharing and reminding everyone to enjoy the spirit of the hunt.

    • Mama, Almost all the pictures were taken using my Nikon SLR camera… I used my cell phone for taking videos. Thank you for your nice words. I, too, was happy it didn’t break when it jumped from my hand to the asphalt!

  46. If Mr. Fenn hid his treasure in the most beautiful spot on earth he would have hidden it in Glacier Nat’l. Park. There is only one place I have been to that would rival it’ s beauty, the Hindu Kush mountains and valleys of Afghanistan.

  47. Cynthia,
    You are a very relentless, versatile searcher. You seem to be getting smarter and be willing to let other areas go with logic and determination.
    OK, your not as stubborn as some that will not give up there state.

    You may be years behind in this area but your schedule allows you to make up loads of ground.

  48. “So a spot in the mountains that is in relative close proximity to a fishing spot but secluded from it by sight and frequency.”

    That’s true Lug. We could just be looking for a nice tree to sit and lean against in proximaty to a fishing or bathing spot. He does mention things like sitting under trees, finding solitude in the trees, having a tree to hide behind, seeing trees at the TC location, etc.

  49. Saw the AGK thingy on u-toob.

    The important thing is for everyone to know that it’s not in NM.

    People need to stop wasting their time looking for it in NM.

    • Nice ploy on throwing the dogs off the trail.
      I agree…..everybody stop looking in NM. Forrest would never hide it in NM….especially in northern NM near Taos near a river in a canyon. I repeat….stop looking in NM. There are other places to waste your time.

  50. I have a solve I’m going for within two months. confident. I will leave behind some things, because it has been something I pondered over days for years so others deserve something for the solve; mine is unfair to Good luck to everyone and may God bless the usa, forrest I think I stumbled upon something that unfortunately gave me a advantage indulgence was it took along time to find this out
    Sincerely Matt

  51. Thank you Cynthia for making enough fun for everyone and sharing.

    You might also have saved some people’s lives incidently, those greenhorns and tenderfoots and low-landers (-:

  52. Cynthia, Looks like you had a great trip. Can you email me at mcmulgl at yahoo dot com? I would like to share some info.

    Thanks
    Not obsessed

  53. Cynthia,

    Thanx so much for sharing – like everyone else has already said, exquisite pictures! Very nice.

    I am so glad that you were not hampered by falling snow or high winds. Simple cold can be managed, in my opinion.

    Good luck as you search!

    Some Where West Of Toledo

  54. Thank you for sharing your adventures and beautiful photos with us, Cynthia! I have been curious as to the amount of snow still on the ground. I must say, I have to talk myself out of throwing all of my gear in the car and taking off from the Lone Star State on a pretty regular basis. Alas… I must wait til vacation time in spring.Then, it’s back to the Madison!! That pesky job sure gets in the way of my fun every day.
    Until then, I will have to live vicariously through brave adventurers like yourself. Thanks again for your share and happy hunting!!

  55. That looked like a fun trip, thanks for taking the time to share it. Pictures are worth a thousand words. I live in Texas so its hard to get up there and see that part of the country. I only starting thrilling this month but I believe all clues point to the northern most State. If I get time, thats where I would go. Good luck fellow chasers.

  56. Cynthia, After reading Mr. Fenn’s recent post on your site about his mother’s pansy bed, you mention generating interest in your blog. The concern I have with your site opposed to Dal’s, is that you require people to log into facebook to comment. I don’t use facebook and never will. That requirement may be an issue for others as well. JMO. Other then that, you have an interesting site.

    • Afana, Thanks for bringing that up. It’s not me requiring people need a FB account to post comments, it’s the website builder. I tried to get them to change that. Maybe I will call them again and talk to someone else to see if this can be changed.

  57. Thank you Cynthia! I love the great outdoors! My husband and I are adventures family. Here in beautiful Arizona we are all over the place and I do have that special place that’s mine alone. When one connects with the God given earth ones spirit awakens inside. One hasn’t fully lived if one doesn’t do things they love.
    I can’t wait to share my Hebgen Lake Avalanche Lake adventure. I am planning it out and taking my flies to catch the trouts. Cook over a open fire and watch the sunrise.

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