Scrapbook Two Hundred Twelve…

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October, 2019

 

My Rubloff Experience

 

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Arthur Rubloff, Chicago Real Estate Developer

In the 1970s, when our Santa Fe gallery was in full flourish, one of our good clients was Arthur Rubloff. He personified aristocracy in its finest moment. Wearing a 3-piece suit and patent leather shoes, he looked like a Prime Minister. The only fault I ever found with Arthur was that his shoes looked to be too long for his feet, although I didn’t profess to be an authority on either subject.

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Massasoit Bronze

Somewhere along those years, we sold Arthur a bronze portrait of Massasoit (1581-1661), the great chief of the Wampanogas tribe. At more than 10’ tall, some said the feather in the Indian’s hair reached clear up to the sky.

The bronze was installed in one of Arthur’s Chicago shopping centers, and he invited me to attend the unveiling ceremony. When we walked into the mall, I saw that the bronze had been cordoned off, about 10’ around, with an obtrusive white picket fence. Arthur smiled and said the fence was there to prevent the kids from damaging the bronze. 

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Grizzly Bronze Outside the Natural History Museum in Denver.

After telling him that there was no way anyone could harm that piece of sculpture, I reminded him that he wanted the bronze on display to give something back to the many shoppers who frequented his mall. I told him of the giant Jonas Brothers grizzly bronze that stood outside the entrance to the Natural History Museum in Denver. “As high as the kids can climb, and reach with their hands, it has the most beautiful patina in the country, and above where they can touch, it is dull and lackluster.”

As the fence was being removed, the band played Hail to the Chief.

Arthur said a few words to the small crowd of people who had paused in their shopping to listen, then he introduced me. It fell my lot to explain who Massasoit was and say how much the art meant to the city of Chicago. It was one of my classic red-face speeches that lasted just long enough to satisfy propriety. 

Arthur’s limo took us to his office. The driver, dressed in a casually pressed black suit, sat erect and always faced forward. His matching colored leather cap, daintily tilted, seemed to evoke a festive mood. The lady in the shotgun seat I guessed was one of his secretaries. I couldn’t see her face because a glass partition separated the two of them in the front from the two of us in the back. 

During the 30-minute ride Arthur and I didn’t talk about architecture, but I couldn’t help but notice the name Rubloff written on the sides of 2 or 3 buildings. He asked what I would like to have for lunch. My reply was something like, “Well, under the circumstance, maybe champagne and pheasant-under-glass are in order.” 

We laughed and I asked him about his celebrated glass paperweight collection that he had promised to the Art Institute of Chicago. The question was a mistake because he started dropping types and names about which I knew nothing. Out of respect, I listened intently, and frequently nodded.

When we entered his spacious office spaces and sat at his dining table, we were served glasses of chilled sparkling champagne, which had to be from a very good year. Although I didn’t like the stuff I sipped and smiled in celebration of the moment. After a nice salad came the pheasant-under-glass. (His secretary had listened on a secret limo intercom, and phoned ahead). 

It didn’t take me long to realize that I was way out of my cozy element, and I probably wondered if Arthur knew what a hot dog was.

Looking back on that day now, more than 4 decades removed, I am reminded of other experiences that similarly favored me during my gallery years. But none of them were as good as being at home in the friendly surroundings of my family. f

 

 

 

 

 

167 thoughts on “Scrapbook Two Hundred Twelve…

  1. Great story. I was born and raised in Chicago; a city with a remarkable architectural heritage.
    That’s quite a few scrapbooks in a short amount of time. Are you trying to tell us something?

  2. Whoa – I’m overwhelmed………slow down Forrest, so that I can absorb all this.
    Otherwise, it is like water running off a duck’s back.
    wwwamericana

  3. My pheasant is usually in a bucket and is finger lickin good. Always enough in there to go around. I am sure that the picket fence wouldnt have lasted too long, since the 70’s was filled with Roy Rogers, Dale Evans, the Lone Ranger and a miriad of other western heros, thise kids were bound to find a way to get close to the bronze indian.

    • P.S.

      The Tricorder (Captain Kirk and Star Trek) was the only device in the 1970 era capable of communicating wirelessly. Unless Mr. RubLoff had access to technology that most people then didn’t. That Bronze indian sure is a piercing sight though.

      • “On October 2, 1946, Motorola communications equipment carried the first calls on Illinois Bell Telephone Company’s new car radiotelephone service in Chicago.”

        Song “mmbop” was the Pop band “Hanson” which are all brothers. Google google 🙂

        • Yes of course. The CB radio. Common Band. I remember my dad had one back then as well. So the secretary could have radioed ahead. Does t take Perry Mason to figure that out. Lol

        • Alsetenash,

          I think you’re all over it as well. How about this added to your sleuthing….

          Unskinny Bop Bopp just blows me away.

          Flesh and Blood.

          Give me something to believe in!

          Unskinny Bop Bopp all night and day…

          Bear your cross?.

          Enjoy some music at the very worst, eh?

          ByGeorge

      • Not true David-
        I remember well a 1964 (first year of manufacture) Ford Mustang convertible driven by one of our scoutmasters. He pulled up to the curb with that thing and we, teen age boys, were dazzled by it…and to add to our wonder he had a car phone on the dash. I am sure car phones were both rare and expensive at that time but that scoutmaster was an executive with Ford. The company car probably came with the phone…you know…in case Edsel had another great idea for a new model…

        Mr. Rubloff seems like the kind of imaginative guy who could certainly make good use of a car phone that allowed his secretary to make last minute lunch and dinner arrangements…

        and to impress business acquaintances from the hinterlands…

        • Dal,

          Thanks for the update (correction). I was just being born when those models came out. It is amazing to think of how much the phone has evolved in the past 60 years. As a kid I was fascinated by the tv show “Get Smart” when Agent Smart (69) would talk on his shoe. Who would have thought then that we would be were we are now?

  4. He is trying to tell us everything. it is the opposite of those museums that archaeologists put a great find in, only for the museum to put it in the basement where we can’t see it.

    ff is saying: here is some cool stuff that we might learn something from, in full light, rather than having those lessons sitting in his basement…

    and I’ll have to say, I am sure none of it relates to finding the treasure chest, despite what it seems all searchers appear to think.

    • Did you notice the different patina on the Grizzlies from that of the Chief? If nothing else, this is definitely a hint that could help in locating the bronze treasure box. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the help f might be giving, but that’s just my opinion.

      • Yes that is why he said green tea, also the patina should be green by now copper and bronze oxidize as green so no glowing chests too see here!

      • Denise, I think you are correct that forrest could be drawing attention to the two differing patinas. Which do you think the chest looks like right now? I’m not sure.

        I’m no expert, but understand that the patina on ff’s Romanesque bronze box depends upon the mixture of metals used in its construction. Bronze is commonly composed of copper, tin, and zinc but other alloys have been used in the centuries. I think the % of copper content may determine how green or brown the patina is. Chief Massasoit may have an applied (ferric nitrate) mixture painted on to turn the bronze permanently brown.

        If the poem contains all we need to locate the treasure chest as I ff has indicated, we may be able to find verde, or brown, raw, etc as a description in the poem of how it looks. Do we know that it’s exposed to the elements? Is it possible that it’s inside a plastic cooler, and old gin still, or under an old boat to protect/hide it?

        • It’s under a decaying pine tree 65 feet long running north and south in a grizzly thicket. Out of the elements and out of sight.
          JS
          Lasttolook

          • Rick, you forgot to mention it’s inside the grizzly’s winter den. Worth the cold, no place for the meek with claws & teeth.

          • It’s my only BOTG solve. The blaze is several years old bear claw marks on several pine trees at the entrance to this thicket. In 2017 all the clues fit nicely but the Grizzlies was there first and several times my size. I’ll go back spring 2020 to retrieve Forrest’s bracelet and thank him personally for mentoring us many arm chair and pick up adventurers.

  5. 10/12. SB212 Hot off the press; i have a feeling this isn’t ff’s last rendezvous. He’s been building up steam; feels to me like we’re about to boil over into 213.

  6. Thanks for sharing, Forrest.
    Your story reminds me of my own childhood adventures with two bronzes (a whale and 3 bears) that occupied my time (and my brother’s time) while we waited for our Mom to finish shopping at Lincoln Square Mall in Urbana, IL. My Grandmother worked at Carsons and our trips to visit had to include exploring inside the whale and climbing on top of the bears. We never fell; that I can recall.

    This summer, I tried to locate the Bronze Whale to show Ivan on our trip to the Smokey Mountains. The Urbana Parks Department used it in their pool as a fountain for years but had deemed it ‘not hygienic’ for continued use.

    How rude! Even when I was at the Louvre in Paris, they had a room specially devoted to handling the sculptures.

    Thanks again.
    Michael and Ivan Raymond
    Oshkosh, Wisconsin

  7. Can’t say that I ever had “pheasant under glass” but have cooked up a many of them, picking out the buckshot. Nothing finer – especially since we shot them ourselves. Not too many left these days out there in Kansas cuz they say it’s because the turkeys moved in.

      • Aw no Eagle – prob just the way you cook it. Or maybe where it came from as diet flavors the meat. You can really tell that in the deer.

        But now duck and geese are another story – I have to boil them first, throw out the broth and then they are slightly edible only with a lot sauce.

  8. I myself came from Northern Indiana very close to Chicago. My children’s father was from Chicago and I have spent a lot of time there. I love hearing stories from back home. I now am a Texan and very proud to be one. But…roots are roots, also proud to be raised a Northerner. I don’t think I would say that I am certain in what f is saying. I believe it is for all to interpret in their own way. My belief is everything he says has a meaning to the Chase. JMO

  9. Thanks for the new SB Forrest. You have known some pretty neat people – I would feel out of place with most of them.

    “Pheasant under glass” – How can you get to it if it is under glass? HAHA

    I will have to “Digest” this one a bit – Thanks again for the post – JDA

    • Pheasant under glass is akin to tasty bird seen through a fishbowl a.k.a. Hoity toity cuisine.

      I take Forrest for a clever joker, and wonder how surprised he was when Arthur Rubloff took ff at his word and pheasant with Champaign awaited.

      If I find the treasure and celebrate with Forrest, we’re having Chicago Dogs, bread pudding, paired with Chateau Valandraud, Saint-Emilion – because some things are worth celebrating – just the way you like it.

  10. “… and I probably wondered if Arthur knew what a hot dog was.”
    I’m pretty sure he did because Chicago style hot dogs is one of the things the city is famous for. Try one when in a layover at O’hare.

  11. Kinda a sad story. Sometimes as a business owner we have to show our appreciation with politeness and boring pleasantries.
    There is no place like home!

  12. Another bird reference.
    Another 1970’s reference (Janis Joplin died in 1970 too and other references to the 70’s lately)
    Shoes like his hush puppies
    hot dog like all the hotdog baseball reference and dogs, his dogs.
    Funny about the Jonas Brothers – music reference mmmbop halebop – do we rrrreally have to learn about the Jonas Brothers now LOL
    touching the bronze
    Reference to chief and Massasoit in bronze is one good looking man!

    • Jonas Bros is an old Denver institution. The original building is a historical landmark. The brothers were taxidermists and went into the fur business, among other pursuits. I remember when my Mom, my Aunt and my Grandmother would take their furs each Spring to be stored at Jonas Bros; the event included lunch in downtown Denver and it was a ritual of sorts. BTW; the old Jonas Bros location isn’t too far from the Denver Museum of Science and History.

      • Excellent context. Thank you! I had wondered why I was having to look at recent pop music, and my crawler agents were very angry at me.

  13. I wonder how many people have climbed up and improved the patina on that bear cub’s nose.

    I’m not sure I’d do the same to Massasoit — maybe a firm handshake.

  14. Great,

    So here I am frantically trying to catch up on all that’s been going on for the last few months and along comes another rapid fire SB. Geeeesh!

    But I’m liking this one a lot. I’m gonna have to read this one another 116 times to be sure that I’m not missing anything.

    Still adjusting to get those lines to cross in the right spot. Every little inky dinky nugget helps. Keep em’ coming!

    Lots to ponder for the day.

    Thanks Dal. Thanks Forrest.

    SRW

  15. “Don’t ever forget where you came from, and give back to those in need.” Arthur Rubloff

    When I see Forrest visiting with likeminded, but empty walleted searchers of his treasure, I see a man who lives out this fine advice.

    By the way Forrest…
    I love this scrapbook!
    Years ago you mentioned on a blog that people should collect something. I took you at your word and purchased my first millifiori glass paperweight. They’re beautiful objects of art that I had admired for years. My little collection of 15 are displayed on my desk. Their delicate flowers wink at me each morning reminding me of Montana’s shooting stars & buttercups. Six have been given away to good friends who wanted to start collections too.

    For anyone interested, here are photos of they quality Rubloff could afford to collect.

    https://www.christies.com/features/Paperweights-collecting-guide-7207-1.aspx

  16. I’ve had one experience with an unveiling. It was actually a switching-on because it was for the water fountain at my alma mater UVic in 1991. The Lieutenant-Governor David Lam thought the school should have a water feature for calm contemplation and to add beauty to the campus. Mr. Lam donated a few million bucks to have one built and the school hired Don Vaughan to design it. Don hired my father to build it.

    For my last year of engineering I would see my father riding around campus on a bicycle between the work site and the administration offices. Some of my classes had windows that looked right out at the construction only a hundred yards away. During one of those classes my father tested the pumps which were too powerful and shot jets of water 50 feet into the air. Everybody laughed.

    When it was finally finished there was an unveiling ceremony. Attendees were the Lt. Governor, the university president, Don Vaughan, and my father among several others. My school-mates were all aware what was going on and so after class we walked over to watch the ceremony.

    Just before the switch was about to be thrown a bunch of students from the arts department marched over and started yelling and protesting that the money should have been spent on scholarships and reducing tuition. How rude was that to say in front of the generous guy who paid for the new fountain? Well, my classmates all turned to those protesters and put them in their place. I was proud of my friends and I was proud of my father and it was a good day. We took our class graduation photo on the steps of that fountain about a week later. Today the fountain is well enjoyed by the students and it has become the place to meet up after classes.

    You can see it here, and with the windows behind where was our antenna theory classroom:

    http://uviccgm.geog.uvic.ca/location/petch-fountain

    • I agree. The money was well spent. As Thomas Merton said, “Art enables us to find ourselves and lose ourselves at the same time.” Many more students will enjoy this beautiful fountain that your father helped build.

  17. We just returned from Wisconsin and my son wanted to see Downtown Chicago. So after sitting in traffic for two hours with the building heights obscured by low clouds he proclaimed, “ I don’t like Chicago, I want to go home now”.

  18. Thank you, Forrest. Once again, a wonderful story; and it helps explain why colors might be so important to the Chase.

    It also gives us a taste of the enduring beauty of bronze, which, like you, only gets better with age!

  19. First Preston’s reference to the parking lot of the “Denver Museum of Nature and Science”,
    And now a pic of the parking lot of the “Natural History Museum in Denver.”

  20. I love your latest story Forrest! You have so many memories. And you speak with such wisdom. I must concur that I too believe that “nothing is as good as being at home in the friendly surroundings of my family.” True words.

    I hadn’t seen that bronze bear before. I think my youngest would love to climb on it too. I will surely plan a trip when conditions are favorable. My girls would love seeing the museum too.

  21. Only Pheasant I ever knew was a small pub here in Downtown Hamilton, Ontario.

    I was once introduced to a secret order not on the menu. Deep Fried Cheesecake!
    The hands down best cheesecake I”ve ever had. and I’ve tried hundreds over my years.

    Funny thing about that pub it’s still there I think but the chef is gone and the secret menu item.

    The name of the pub is the “Pheasant Plucker” Try saying that three times!

    Go ahead: I Triple dog dare ya!

  22. Fun Fact: The Wampanoag tribe lived in southeastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
    The name loosely translates to: “Weather sucks big one”. 🙂

  23. Forrest,

    Hmmm, parable or metaphor, idk, but I’d rather the latter than the former in the end.

    It’s interesting that a comma, or lack thereof, can change a positive to a negative….referring to the bronze grizzly and where the good patina is, or isn’t…I had to read that at least twice but, again, you were right, there.

    Well, as far as shoe size goes, I thought it was funny in TTOTC that your boots seemed to be larger than your feet where you are sitting next to Donnie, sometimes I grin about that photo in my mind, but then, maybe it’s only because I’m near sighted.

    Fun stories, please don’t stop!

    s

  24. It is a good thing to touch the copper bronze, seems some use that smelly antibacterial gel these days and wonder what is wrong. Have sat waiting for my ride near that bear, it’s such a lovely museum and never were my days wasted there. In the 70’s and maybe too the 80’s was such a friendly greeter, his name was Dutch and I could not write this without it bringing a warm smile to my face. I think of him from time to time and his welcoming manners and appreciate those days of learning, quietly observing and listening without which I might not have gotten much education.

    There was a diorama of a Cheetah that they had positioned in a state of running after a Gazelle, it’s paw above ground had a little tuft of dust somehow suspended in mid-air behind it giving the whole scene such a dynamic that I would often just stand there questioning how they did that. I wonder if it’s still there?

    We dance round in a ring and suppose,
    But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
    Robert Frost

    Enjoy your evening Forrest and thank you again. Stay cozy 🙂

  25. I love the Denver Museum grizzly sculpture. So sad that the last grizzly in Colorado was killed 67 years ago, way back in 1952.
    Thanks for the story Mr Fenn.

    • RichardK – the last known Grizzly in Colorado was killed in 1979, near Platoro (Silver and Gold) Reservoir, by an outfitter named Ed Wiseman. He is in his 80s and still living. The story in well documented in the book “Ghost Grizzlies” by David Peterson. Fascinating read and there is speculation that the great bruin still may be found in Colorado, as the bear killed was an old sow who had born cubs. The remains of the last known Grizzly in Colorado reside at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science.

      • I could swear I have seen grizzlies in colorado . I think the state renamed them because of the endangered spieces and the classification of those bears . They now say they are hybrids of some sort. reclassified

        • I lived for 3 years in a cabin I built on my mountain property in the north front range of Colorado (west of Fort Collins) back around 2000. I was driving up the canyon one day and a bear jumped out on the road and ran just in front of my truck for a good 30 seconds. I got a good look at him and it really looked like a grizzly to me.

  26. An interesting Scrapbook post delivering a hint or confirmation (depending on the searcher) IMHO. A picture says 1000 words.

  27. Are we all ok? I’ve trusted and believed Forrest to be a man of his word. I’m a bit freaked out by this article. Maybe I’m being paranoid. I don’t know guys. What is your take on this excerpt from this book? Fake bronzes. Tax evasion. Argh. Wtf?!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=G-aGDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=arthur+rubloff+massasoit&source=bl&ots=Pi0s8Nsz6j&sig=ACfU3U2o2vHQXgdpGMS7Vb7sfXCS6uM62A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5kJ-CjpjlAhWFoJ4KHcFfC0kQ6AEwDXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=arthur%20rubloff%20massasoit&f=false

    • Wow interesting. Controversy is always rocking the Art world! Nature of the beast. Hard to escape it. Not surprised. It’s a beautiful sculpture though.

      • Plymouth rock-pilgrims-Indian relations.
        Read a little farther down it gets pretty interesting.
        More about the artist and history.
        I’m more interested in what was happening behind the rock.

    • I don’t click on links.

      But f does indeed have a reputation in the gallery, antiquities and art communities, much of it not so flattering. Read today’s news, and the same is true for many others in all sorts of occupations. Some may be provoked by envy and jealousy. Some may be legitimate commentary.

  28. “I wonder if he knew what a hotdog was” it’s 6:30 a m I’m in West Yellowstone ready to have breakfast. I hope by the end of the day I get the opportunity to use that line …I love it…lol

    Thanks for the good laugh to start off my day, Forest.

  29. One of my dreams is to go to Romantique Paris one day and see the Ifle Tower and many of the famous Landmarks that are also there in their full majesty. Hopefully there will be time and enough money left over as I tour around the full arc of old Paris to stop for lunch and get a chance to eat Pheasant-under glass at La Tour de Argent

    Some like breakfast at Tiffanys.. I would prefer La Tour de Argent instead.

    Maybe one day I will do both as they remind me of how things can be similar at different ends of the world.

  30. The two times I flew into Chicago to work at a trade show I was invited to go to dinner at the a restaurant at the top of Sears tower with a group
    Of friends. We where picked up in a stretch limo and toured the city on our way to the top! Our host ordered us Crystal champagne. It was fabulous. I was over the moon to have this wonderful and rare experience. We had so much fun the next time I was in San Fransico I got to go again with the same group. Sometimes you just get lucky!

    • I think they would be lucky to get to ride in a dirty ole pick up with holes in the floor board so u can see the pavement under your feet Duck tape on the seats and ya have to pull on the window to get it to go up And a cold beer roll out from under the seat We are the lucky ones lol

  31. An interesting aside, Did you know that the saying “a feather in your cap” as a sense of achievement came from the Native American tradition of giving a feather to someone who had been brave in battle?

  32. The bronze was installed at the Evergreen Plaza Mall which fell into major disrepair in the late 90s and essentially shuttered. It has had some development as recent as 2015 but not of course (like any mall) seeing foot traffic at the levels of the 70s and into the 80s. (Online shopping and the end of the 80s quest for excess being over spelled the death of the “mall” it was once known.) With that, I am trying to locate where the Massasoit (1581-1661) bronze would be now. I am hoping it was saved and the Art Institute of Chicago has it but have not seen anything on it. Just curious where it is now.

  33. There are some interesting links between this SB and the last SB.

    1. hot dogs
    2. fault (the shoes and he wanted to blame Willie in the last SB)
    3. driver and passenger (limo ride and his accidental photo mistake from the last SB…..wreckage)
    4. automobiles (Jeep and limo)
    5. music (the radio and the band)
    6. architecture (office buildings and the bunk house)

    Very similar to other numerous references to *trash* in other recent SB’s.

    Coincidence? It’s hard to think that it is.

    All IMO.

    SRW

  34. Yea that guy don’t look like he ever ate a hot dog or spam Or poke salad and cornbread rich people just don’t know what there missing out on haha

    • LOL,

      This is strange, but the first song that just popped into my head is “the ants go marching one by one”……hurrah, hurrah! LOL.

      Funny thing is that a person could be bellowing that song all while picking off clues along the way! LOL.

      I don’t know where that one came from but good luck getting that one out of your head!

      SRW

  35. Forest to the best of your knowledge has any searcher been closer than the infamous 200-foot searcher??? Maybe within 40 feet???

  36. Rubloff installed the bronze at his Evergreen Plaza, which, in an interview for the Chicago Tourism Board, he inadvertently referred to as the Pinyon Pine Plaza, only later to say he misspoke…..

  37. Because Forrest gives special attention to capitalization in his poem, should we pay attention here to capitalized words that should not be capitalized? I don’t know, but here are a few:

    Prime Minister – only capitalized when naming a specific person. PM.

    Real Estate Developer – usually not capitalized (maybe done here because its the title of the photo) not sure. RED

    Outside – Grizzly Bronze Outside… typically not cap’s.

    ANYONE have ideas?

  38. “But none of them were as good as being at home in the friendly surroundings of my family.” Hear hear, I’ll drink to that. Not champagne but a beer for me. Maybe a Lone Star or a Hamm’s, always a good year. Can’t miss with that. g

  39. I enjoyed reading more about things that happened in your life, Mr. Fenn. I agree with your last statement about nothing greater than being surrounded by the comforts of family.

    “Hail to the Chief” played? Unless the President of the United States attended the mall at that particular moment, I’m not sure why the song would have been played. White picket fence, taking down the border walls/fence separating the public from the bronze? I’m not sure what to think about that part.

  40. – While not the Jonas Brothers me and my brother (DWG) are looking forward to more leaflets as these pages continue to turn. Honestly we are excited about our springly future BOTG. The decision to go is not a tough one, but is the most logical next step in this historical adventure. Seriously DWG bring your imagination home and lets put your scribbles back on the ground.

    • Also known as vert-de-griz… or verdigris… depending on who is asked.

      Or if you’re asking about Verdigris style rock art and anywhere in the search zone that this might be found… for any reason. Notmuchhereprobably

  41. I was looking at the Louis Paul Jonas Bronzes and the hippocampus circa 1931 is beautiful. Don’t know why I am drawn to that one. It looks warm and makes me want to touch .

  42. “If a purchaser unwittingly buys a counterfeit and cannot resell it – the value would be estimated by some as no more than a commercial souvenir paperweight” ( quote from Monumental Mobility: The Memory Work of Massasoit). It seems Rubloff did have a paperweight collection…

  43. September 26, 1969, episode of “Get Smart” aired – hard to believe that show was on TV over 50 years ago. Loved it. In that episode, “Pheasant Under Glass,” Agent 99 is pregnant and Max’s cover is blown. At one point they flew to the moon to meet the Chief. Some think the moon is hollow, even made of brass. One net-legend has it that Neil Armstrong threw a rock and when it landed, the ground rang like a bell for over an hour. Not sure if that’s true or not, but the story probably came from the same sources that insist the earth is flat.

  44. I’m kinda new to all of this and am wondering why you believe there are hints or clues in Forrest’s SB posts. Has Forrest himself said there are clues hidden in his SB posts? Thanks.

    • Welcome BroStevo – There are gentle hints in some Scrapbooks imo but the most important info is contained within the poem and TToTC. I’m not sure if Forrest has ever said they contain hints but it’s generally accepted that some do.

  45. Just got back to Modesto after a grueling 1,700 mile 3 day drive from Texas and back to playing Chase catch-up, or is that ketchup?

    Like I said the other day, “Maybe this is when TTOTC really begins. Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. He’s got the flag in his hands and the race is getting ready to start (started?).”

    Pinatubocharlie

  46. The heart of the North American Continent, home of the Cubs, & Bears, famous for their weiner dogs, & architecture, & the land of the 9 sided Temple. Truly a Forrest Fenn’s, “(bronze, & golden)” Statue deserves a place next to Chief Red’s. Perhaps one of his beloved Dachshund as well.

  47. Does anyone else feel that recently Forrest seems to be directing his hints to someone who has solved most or all of the poem clues? For instance, in his Secret Words from Forrest (MW), he says, “If you are in the right spot, something you haven’t thought about should be obvious to you.” Then in SB 212 there is a marked difference in the patinas on the 2 bronzes, which would seem to help someone searching the area where the chest is.

    It seems like Forrest’s hints have progressed along with the Chase. Does this prove someone has actually solved the poem? No, absolutely not. That would be mere conjecture on our part. However, the hints will be in place if and when someone does actually complete the solve. It does lead one to believe, however, that there are probably important hints in other scrapbooks, too.

  48. Under glass. Inside glass. Privacy glass. Glasses (for eyes and to drink from). Yep, glass is certainly a theme (hint) IMO.

    “…….. but only a few are in tight FOCUS with a word that is key.” Optics are needed to focus. You need glass for optics AND what do you make glass from? Common sand.

    Is glass of some sort or sand in the poem somewhere?

    Pinatubocharlie

  49. Tarzan was the TC’s original name. The man who played Tarzan in the ‘66 TV series, Ron Ely, was famous for that role, and for his role in ‘Doc Savage: The Man of BRONZE’…

    Tonight, his wife was murdered by their 30-yr-old son at their home in Santa Barbara. Police shot and killed the son. :’(

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