Scrapbook Two Hundred Thirty Two…


November, 2019


Revenge is Best Served Hot 

On the ides of March (or there abouts) in 1967, my friend Bill Griggs suggested that we attend a gun show in Snyder, Texas. Where we lived in Lubbock was just 85 miles away and it was Saturday, so I said okay. Driving down I promised myself that I wouldn’t spend much money, primarily because I didn’t have much money to spend. 

Both Bill and I were expert western history shoppers, and surely we would know some of the dealers and collectors who would be in attendance. It promised to be a fun day.

I was walking up and down between display tables, minding my own business, and taking everything in. Then, on Bob Algee’s table, I spotted a beautiful old holster. It had been made by a Navajo Indian to fit a Colt 1860 Model Army pistol. I recognized it immediately and it was love at first sight. But it was 200 bucks. So I started arguing with myself. What I had going against buying it was my promise not to spend much money. But I owned a beautiful 1860 Model Army pistol with ivory grips that needed a holster. Desire superseded my promise and I told Bob, “I’ll take this holster, but let me leave it here for a minute while I look at other things on your table.” He had a long table that was full of wonderful things that I also couldn’t afford. 

When I glanced back at Bob he was working with another client and they were stacking artifacts up in a pile. And my holster was sitting right on top. I hurried back and said, Bob, just a minute, that’s my holster and I’m ready to take it.”

“Well, this gentleman is buying a few things from me and I told him he could have it.” Bob had finality written across his face, he was bigger than me and could probably run faster. So I said “gulp,” and turned to the new owner. 

“Is the holster for sale?” 
“Yes it is.”
“How much do you want for it?”
“Two hundred and fifty bucks.”
“Take it or leave it, I don’t have all day.”
“I’ll take it,” and I wrote him a check. 

On the way home I felt terrible. Breaking a promise was bad enough, but breaking one with myself was truly awful.

My 1860 Model Army looked really great in the new holster.

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About 30 days later Bob appeared at my foundry door. His “wonderful” wife Hilda had made “A nice little art object and I want you to cast it in 30 copies. She wants to give one to each of her friends for Christmas. It’s my gift to her.”

“Bingo,” I thought, and I added $50 to his cost of each bronze I made for him. 

“I hope your wonderful wife Hilda will be happy with these castings.”

“I’m sure she will be.” 

It cost me $50 when he was unethical and sold the holster out from under me, but he paid me back 30-fold, and he never knew it happened. I was reminded of a rule I made for myself when I was 9 years old, “Don’t make the alligator mad until you’ve crossed the river.” I could hardly wait to tell Bill Griggs. f







141 thoughts on “Scrapbook Two Hundred Thirty Two…

  1. Haha! Love this story! I think I can see the seed of inspiration that eventually convinced Forrest to get into the art-dealing business! 🙂

  2. Note to self *** Don’t be an indian giver when making a trade with Forrest Fenn….and until a deal is cast in stone then watch out for the brass taxks….lol

  3. I Hate getting lied to by a seller on a deal like that! And then ripped off by a moochy ‘friend’. At least you got even! 😉
    (Is that also a Klingon proverb?)

    • This SB made me think of an old artist I am fond of. Duane Bryers. I’ve always enjoyed his work

  4. Beware the Ides of March….betrayal….etu Brute said Julius Caesar as he was betrayed and stabbed in the back…on March 15.
    It seems that those who betray Forrest may reap a lot more than just bad karma. A warning for the future, I think.

    • I hear that, and listen good. But think that even at $20 back then, the
      holster was overpriced. As always, IMO.

    • Bob came back in 30 days…same length of time Forrest suggest to wait before coming forward with chest…30days, 30 copies, 30 fold.
      Bill Griggs also helped Forrest look for Captain Carter grave.
      In my way of thinking, I wouldnt call this a threat..more of a promise.

      • Interesting tie-in to the 30 days thingy ,Mike Gibbs. Gives a perspective of these last three?


        IMO .

        • A thinly veiled warning?….to me the dichotomy in attitude in the Scrapbooks responds more to Forrests perception of his time left than a conflict between him and a potential finder.
          This summer there were hints of a business plan, 10 minute negotiations and Forrest considering them a good friend who he always went along with. Now at the end of this search season, you have Forrest saying that he doesnt even care to know who finds the chest but waits for that email. Conflict and frustration permeate other Scrapbooks.
          We , as searchers, stare into the abyss of 5 or 6 months of downtime. Forrest at age 89 would naturally question how long his seemingly amazing health and vitality will hold. Maybe, God willing, his health will hold for years longer. He might then revisit the “plans of summer” if the chest is recovered soon enough.

          • @Mike Gibby. I dunno if I would say he’s giving a warning towards a future finder, but more so an advisement? . I think these most recent couple of SB’s of themed karma and revenge are for attention purposes for storytelling . A drama effect for reading interest; mixing things up a bit in style form. He’s writing/telling a lot of stories . Telling these stories , that appear to be loaded with insight, in various engaging ways. Definitely not same old same old style, which adds entertainment engagement to the reading and writing value to this process. IMO .

            Basically, the email he wants from searchers is the finding finder. He is saying here , ‘ with all due respect’, let him know. It will be to your benefit in the future , less so if you don’t . Basically , if you want , ” title to the gold” , there’s an advisement of the find required.

            This is if I were to look at it from said perspective.

            Good conversation, Mike. 🙂

            IMO .

    • Ides of March fell on a Wednesday in 1967. So that Saturday was either the 11th or the 18th. Forrest *did* say “or there abouts”. 😉

  5. Reminds me of a used car seller I once dealt with. I was looking to buy a Ford Taurus from him, So I gave him a check for $500.00 to hold the car while I went to my bank to transfer the rest to a cashiers check to finalize the sale, this was before the internet folks. Any way when I returned, I was informed that the car was sold in my absence. I was P.O. at that news. Well they tried to sale me some POS at a reduced price. I was having none of it, so I went across the street and bought a brand new car. Two years later they were talking to my Dad about him buying 4 brand new pick ups for his business. I walked into the room and told him in front of the owners of the dealership how they had treated me when I worked with them before. My Dad dropped the pen and got up and left. He then bought his new trucks from the dealership across the street. Moral of the story, you screw a Texan and sooner or later he’ll make you pay for it.

    • That is one ugly holster ff. $250 in 1967 for such is absurd. Your Indian history is better than that. *wink*

    • I once traded in an old car to buy a used car. I sat down with the salesman, and he went over the numbers with me. I looked at the sheet of paper with numbers scribbled all over it. Then I looked up at him and said, “Well, those numbers don’t make any sense to me.” He reached across the table, put his hand on mine, and said, “Sweetie, I know it probably looks like Chinese to you but, trust me, we do this all the time. ” I said, “Okay.” A few minutes later, I drove my new (to me) car off the lot. Well, a few days later, I got a call from the salesman. He told me that they had screwed up and sold the car to me for less than what they had paid for it. I said, “I told you the numbers didn’t make sense to me.” He wanted me to write him a check for the difference. I said, “Too late now. A deal’s a deal.”

      • SuzyQ.

        I had almost exactly the same experience back in 1986 in Sacramento when buying a new car to take to the Philippines where I’d be working for the Navy for the next 5 years until Mt. Pinatubo erupted and we were forced to permanently evacuate.

        But the salesman, Cliff, called before we picked it up though the contract had been signed days before. The delay was calculated on his part to pressure us. In this case he claimed to have ‘forgotten’ to add profit and waited for me to respond. This wasn’t my first rodeo and so I said nothing. A very long pregnant pause ensued and then he asked what I was going to do? Playing the game I said about what? He said about adding profit into the deal.

        Being a contracts kind of guy professionally I told him basically what you said and then he exploded accusing me of stealing food from the mouths of his kids along other unpleasant things.

        We were literally within days of leaving the country and I had a lot of other things to do including getting the car to Oakland so it could be shipped out. So I simply hung up the phone and stewed for a few minutes. Then I picked up the phone and called the California Highway Patrol who had jurisdiction over new car sales back then. I was connected to a Sargent Jones and related my problem to him. He told me it was an old game they like to play, betting your conscience will feel sorry for them and you acquiesce.

        Then he told me, you call them back and tell them that you spoke to Sargent Jones at the CHP and if your problem doesn’t go away immediately ….. “but it will”, then call me back and I’ll deal with it personally.

        So I called the head of sales and spoke to a woman and asked if it was common practice for them to mislead and not negotiate in good faith. I had her boxed in and so what else could she say except ‘certainly not’. I related to her my conversation with Cliff and then I said, ‘that’s exactly what Sargent Jones said, that you guys don’t do business like that”. She said she’d look into my problem and so guess what?

        About 10 minutes later Cliff called and in a very pleasant tone asked when we could come down and pick up the car. We were driving to Oakland the next day.

        Revenge can absolutely have a very pleasant taste and so my wife and I gave each other a BIG high-5.


  6. I like this story and the fact that your code of honor was well formed by an early age Forrest…don’t forget the cream as you enjoy reminiscing over a hot slice of bread pudding.

    • Did someone say bread pudding? One of my favorite desserts, with the possible exception of cassava cake (Filipino). The best bread pudding I’ve ever had in my life was during a business trip in Lexington, KY, and it had this marvelous bourbon cream sauce on top. Absolutely to die for.

      Thanks 42 for resurrecting that faint, but now vivid memory.


      • @Pinatubocharlie,
        I recall reading that it was Forrest’s favorite dessert, and I also love really good bread pudding. My mom used to make it from cinnamon rolls.

  7. How shameless of Bob to then come to you and ask for a favor! He’d already made you mad and so he shouldn’t have tried to cross the river.

    Do you remember what Hilda’s bronze depicted, out of curiosity?

  8. When ever I hesitate buying something I like, I often end up a day late and a dollar short. I usually justify my loss with a “sour grapes” rational. As if that used motorcycle or car was probably broken down. Now I know that life is too short to wait. There is greater value in indulgence.

  9. How many now are gonna be running to cabalas and getting waders to cross the river I’m guessing quite a few Hope everyone has the waders where they don’t fill with water and someone drowns be safe y’all .

    • And be sure to get a wader belt if your’e unaware. Keeps them from filling up if you slip in. And be sure to get the ones with built in insulated boots and felt soles. The felt soles give you a fighting chance of not slipping in.


      PS – thank goodness there ain’t no gators in the RMs. That’s why I didn’t take a job at Kings Bay, GA, cuz I’d be one of them there ‘statistics’ they talk about on TV.


  10. I’m glad the other gentleman offered the holster to you, although at a higher price. The pistol looks good in it.

  11. This story brought me back to a memory of similarity, That’s a great story example of benevolent revenge. Everyone gets what they asked for.

    The art of a deal. Nice!


  12. Bob didn’t have to come to f for his gift for Hilda. But he did.

    Many bought only once at Fenn Gallery. Then never again.

    It was common at Dallas nouveau riche homes, when the hostess would boast of her purchase during their last visit to Santa Fe, guests’ eyes would roll, snorts would be politely suppressed.

  13. “The Apache chief Geronimo, savoring his .“massacre of four Mexican army companies, wrote:
    Still covered with the blood of my enemies, still holding my conquering weapon, still hot with the joy of battle, victory, and vengeance, I was surrounded by the Apache braves and made war chief of all the Apaches. Then I gave the orders for scalping the slain.
    I could not call back my loved ones, I could not bring back the dead Apaches, but I could rejoice in this revenge.”

    Excerpt From
    The Better Angels of Our Nature
    Steven Pinker

  14. Forrest, I’m still stuck eating pasta chili. I can’t even keep up with these scrapbooks, but please don’t stop anytime soon. I bet you have 12 or 13 very powerful self reflective bear fetishes in your pocket at all times dont you. I’ll trade my chasing stars kachina doll for just a tiny bit of that super mojo you’ve got going on.

    • David Denn, it all started this time with “Chaos” and by some “Fickle finger of fate” the lead dog needs to put this all in to a perspective..or Embroider it all back together?

      I am with you on the Chili Line, so how do we find #4 hole or should I say Home of Brown, cause that in his end of the rainbow is clue 4, me thinks and 7 it is possible that someone has found it…so which is 7? No paddle or Heavy loads?
      Only the Phantom Knows…


      • I like the way you think too Tom.

        I have a feeling this is going to be an exciting winter.

  15. Forrest;

    Thanks for the insight. Remind me to never make you mad in any way. A promise made, is a promise kept as far as I am concerned. Sorry that there are people like Bob that do not think that a man’s word is his bond. Just sayin’ JDA

  16. The Next Scrapbook will be about Circles I’m 100% sure and the number 33 will pop up eventually.

  17. Forrest,
    What more can you tell us about your ivory etched 1860 colt, for fun? Do you know who strapped it to his hip in 1860, or there about?

    Thanks, 42

  18. I think the funnest fact is that the Army model was built to chamber .36 and .44 calibers while the Navy version was stuck with the .36 only. All the Navy reproductions nowadays chamber the .44 but we all know it’s a ruse to boost sales.

    Looks to me like The Blue to Green Campaign is in full string. But that’s just a theory.

    • According to a close souce of mine – the standard Army was made to chamber a .44 cal bullet only while the 1851 and 1861 Navy’s were all in .36 caliber.

      With regards to the holster – beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder.
      And that’s all I got to say about that.

      • Another great story Forrest!!! Is the checkering on the Ivory factory or applied later? Hot Chocolate is best served hot btw…

        • Spallies – prob the first place to start is see how this old gun letters. Doesn’t give you 100% proof. Gun could have been issued with ivory grips and then checkered at a later date. If you take the grips off (that’s dicey) there might possibly be a pencilled number matching the serial number on the grips.

          Also, Forrest said that old gun and holster were a “perfect match” – maybe that tells you something……

  19. “revenge is served hot”…

    Dec. ,2019 issue of “True West” or perhaps it was “Wild West” magazine had a small article on Glenna Goodacre…

    The very last sentence was a qoute from her…
    “Success is the best revenge.”

    Perhaps a quote pertaining to “revenge” and attributed to Mahatma Gandhi would bring contentment…”An eye for a eye, just makes the whole world blind”

  20. Revenge is a very bad thing In my option it serves nothing . But man has that desire it’s best left alone. Leave it to God . Just saying God has blessed me with so much not that I have much but I am alive today and I hope tomorrow and many more. God bless you

    • I agree. Waiting for the revenge day just builds anger inside yourself. You cannot be a happy man like that. It happened to me until I realized it and I forgave.

      • theirs some wisdom flowin round hear, boy I’ll tail ya! coarse fur me, no in that path an walkin it is to differin matters. Simone Weil in Gravity & Grace said somthin bout — once you realize caint nobody take nothin from ya important, somehow that line clicked an anytime i get ‘slighted’ in life, i jus zoom out an look at the bigger picture an realize eye iz always gonna be me, an that aint nothin no thrown stones can shake loose. theres piece in that fact.

        i dont hardly ever even flatten nobody’s tires no more. specially cause thems the folks i hope drive there trailer awn outta town anyhow. now thas some wisdom and foresite.

  21. I love it when Fenn uses the word *Best*.
    There is nothing better and it’s #1.
    It’s Served Hot allright.

  22. I think I’m going to read “How to Swim with the Sharks”, just in case I stumble onto the treasure. That book might come in handy.

  23. Just for fun:

    Anagrams which tell FF’s story

    “Pistol holster”
    Lot Heist pro =>> Plot their Loss

  24. I really Like the Holster….Revenge is something I no longer have the appetite or energy for, It’s no longer apart of my DNA. I pray that God will do my bidding for me and I will not be in a Position to make any rash decisions, like Revenge. I have to read these scrapbooks over and over to get the best out of them.. Forrest uses these Life examples to get his Points across. I’m still not sold on this one and only time will tell if it holds some answers. I might be caught in the Middle. Everyone Have a Happy Thanksgiving!!

  25. Like an email, these scrapbooks can get so lost in translation. It’s almost the same as two people, face to face, speaking at one another in different languages. I’m just sitting here lost.

    What I get from this is:
    1) Someone broke a promise? The last promise I made was to stop emailing and I’ve kept it!!!

    2) Maybe patience pays off? Things will eventually swing your way when people aren’t kind? I like this theory.

    3) Holsters are expensive. Yeesh. Think about how many hot dogs with relish you could buy with $200.

    Thank you Forrest for the scrapbook. They are so varied and fun, I really enjoy them.

  26. To contribute on here though…

    I see “Strike while the iron is hot…”

    Guns in the old west were called “irons.”

    Revenge is best served hot.

    The best revenge is Fenn wearing his bracelet, as he has said.

    If you look up bronze and 1500, which is what Fenn made on his $50 x 30 deal with Bob, you’ll see a relation to bronzes and Florence, Italy.

    Just my two cents.

    • Great read on this Rick, Forrest seems to be saying his cost in the beginning went up, due to him waiting too long to close the deal. It appeared to be costly at the time but in the end, his miss timing paid off. Strike why the Iron is Hot, might be what he is saying here… He broke his own promise first and it cost him. Sweet Revenge will be successfully finding the chest…

      • Thank DB. I always appreciate your insight.

        I also think interns of the cost going up with the holster as Fenn referring to how the chest has appreciated and is worth more than it was in the beginning.

        It’s getting cold. I may have one more go in me if Forrest posts the right things.

        Good luck to all.


  27. I hope I didn’t upset you with my last post Forrest. Or anything on any other forum. If so, I am truly sorry. On here I was just making an observation. I didn’t mean any disrespect and I had hoped that it didn’t come across that way. On the other forums, my thinking was like this: I was helped a great deal by others posting their work- many who had given up. And I felt an obligation to do throw a bone or two back to the fold. It wasn’t ego or anything like that. Also, I get it why some people would want to throw a painting at my mouth to get me to shut up. And if- and that’s a big if I know – if I had anything to do with any of that in reality then I am truly sorry. I went a bit overboard and it was just the heat of the moment.

    On the other hand, none of that could mean anything to you at all and I’m just being a bit paranoid inwhich case ignore everything I just said. LOL

    On this post let me say only this: I’m taking a bridge. So….

    • R&R, Its winter. Don’t forget, Forrest said the Chase is supposed to be fun. Simplify if you can. g

  28. The frequency with which you mention rules speaks volumes to how quickly you adapt any life experience to your advantage.

  29. That place is one smoky joint, I remember going in there for dinner, and the cigarettes smoked me out. I wonder if they still smoke in there?

  30. Forrest, I’m just wondering if searchers are listening to you. “Hear me all and listen good”- seems to have only a couple of searchers attention. You’re sprinkling the hints throughout but I see only a couple mention some, and they aren’t going the direction they should be with them. Now maybe the lurkers are grabbing every banana, and they should be, especially if they don’t even have the first clue solved.

    As for this SB, I see two that jump out and can go further beyond assisting the couple in SB230, as far as following that trail.
    I think you don’t need my help Forrest, with the acknowledgement of these controlled hints that you are “whispering” here on this hoD’s. So I will just read and observe until it’s Spring once more.

    Thanks for all these inspirational reads, hope you whisper some in the direction of #9.


    • Hi Bur;

      Maybe it takes some of us a wee bit longer to pick up on the hints. Like this one, It did not come to me until I had already gone to bed to figure out the hints in this one – or at least I think that I picked up on what Forrest had in mind. I guess time will tell – JDA

      • Thanks for the reply JDA. Maybe it’s just me, but Forrest is trying his best to help all get path going in the minds of us searchers. For me it is fun to watch how he is doing it and seeing who’s picking up on it.

        So good for you if you got something here but the last three SB’s are telling a lot.

        Good luck JDA,

        • I think the two of you should let the rest of us in on what you’ve figured out. My head hurts.

          • Copper;

            I will let Bur answer for him/her self. For my part – Isn’t this a “Chase” for a prize of over 1 million dollars? IF I have picked up on a hint, wouldn’t it be against my best interests to share it with “The world”? Some truths are best unspoken. “Loose lips sink ships.” JMO JDA

          • JDA-maybe you are right. I bet it’s closer to five million though. And I think the white buffalo may be a hint and if I’ve helped anyone with that then maybe good karma will float my way.

        • Something imo, is important to point out, (which we all can and will ignore) but worth thought.

          We can actually say that hints are fully meaningless, because one can read a story by Shakespeare, and find a hint if one wishes, and if all were known, we could actually contrive a realistic “hint” weaved into any story such as Shakespeare has created after the fact (the unraveled riddle/poem)

          but more importantly the “hints” in the book can be considered the exact same way, as although we know there are only a couple/few there, we also know they were not intended/placed there as a “hint”.

          In this way the intended hint can only be deduced after the fact, in which case it will be obvious. but before then will not ever show a real purpose.

          From a post here on Dal’s blog in 2014: “It is starting to sound like Mr. Fenn is wanting the treasure to be found this year. He is being very active with the hints.”

          incase anyone is wondering how it will turn out again this year (or next), we have 9 or 10 of them to look back on. with the same example premise in each of those years repeated 100 times in different ways.

          • Hi Writis: “We can actually say that hints are fully meaningless, because one can read a story by Shakespeare, and find a hint if one wishes, and if all were known, we could actually contrive a realistic “hint” weaved into any story such as Shakespeare has created after the fact (the unraveled riddle/poem)”

            I agree with this sentiment. You can throw a dart at a map of the Rockies (or better yet, throw it in North America outside the Rockies). Wherever it lands, you can crack open TTOTC and you WILL find “confirmation” for where that dart landed. The “null hypothesis” exercise is an important one to carry out so that you understand that coincidences happen, and in a book the size of TTOTC, they are almost guaranteed.

            “… the “hints” in the book can be considered the exact same way, as although we know there are only a couple/few there, we also know they were not intended/placed there as a “hint”.”

            We actually don’t know either of these things. Forrest has only *admitted* to a few (at least four, by the way he worded it). But there could be dozens. His word “sprinkled” doesn’t exactly conjure up a meager four hints.

            But he certainly did deliberately put them in there; however, their specific ~placement~ may not have always been deliberate (he did say they weren’t organized in the nice sequential way the clues are in the poem). Alternatively, the placement even if deliberate was not meant to aid “the seeker,” which Forrest may differentiate from a “clue solver.” Lots of lawyerly ways to read a deceptively simple declarative statement.

    • You are starting to get pretty bold and I love it.

      I don’t know if anyone else can hear you when you comment so I’ll do my part too and say I see you, I believe you, and you are three years behind me on The Chase.

    • Bur,

      I so agree with you, and based on the little “hints” you give…..I think we (and perhaps a few others) are focusing in on the same “key word.” Took me a bit, but then I saw it appear before my very eyes! LOL! But then again, perhaps not and I’m waaaaaay off base. Either way, I will have fun with the Chase come this Spring. Good Luck to you!

    • Hi Bur,
      if you have a solution for poem you will search for any words in Forrest SBs that consistent with your solution. It’s a psychology. Forrest published 232 SBs to current time and will publish tens more. If 10% of SBs contains 1 hint/clue we should have 23 of them now. It’s more than enough to be very close to TC.
      Most likely that SBs are just stories from Forrest life and many of us see “hidden” hints/clues because we want to see them. Then after BOTG we will start again and again.

      • I disagree and I stand with Bur.
        You start finding clues and you will see that Forrest is hiding everything in plain sight. And I’d be willing to bet that there are many clues in every scrapbook.

        • Hi AkB,
          if you are right and “there are many clues in every scrapbook” so we should have hundreds clues released by Forrest. Poem, TTOTC with 3-4 hints/clues, a few in TFTW and OUAW and > 200 in SBs… Why TC is still not found?
          BTW, Forrest never said directly that he published hidden hints/clues in SBs.

        • Andy S.: how do you interpret this Q&A from Six Questions (Q3) in February 2015: “In your memoir, The Thrill of the Chase, after the poem, you mention there are subtle clues sprinkled throughout that book. You have said you hadn’t deliberately placed these subtle hints in your book; but have you done so in any of your other writings mentioned in Question two (scrapbooks, vignettes, etc)? Or, even if maybe not purposely sprinkled in those writings of Q2, would you consider some of those to contain subtle hints too, like in The Thrill of the Chase?”

          FF: “I don’t want to broaden the clues and hints I’ve written about by pointing them out. What surprises me a little is that nobody to my uncertain knowledge has analyzed one important possibility related to the winning solve.”

          Since he says he doesn’t want to BROADEN the clues and hints he’s written about, sounds to me like there is more of them out there than he’s admitted to.

          You ask if there are so many hints/clues out there in Forrest’s various communications, why hasn’t the chest been found? Seems pretty simple to me: the hints are subtle, and confirmation bias runs rampant. Only a tiny fraction of searchers have the correct WWWH. Those who don’t (over 99%) are perhaps being counterproductive if they’re looking for SB hints.

          • Zap. Again you, in your now consecutive posts, have highlighted opportunities perhaps missed by interpretations in prior FF quotes in Q&A’s. I understand your points very well.



          • Another one, Zap, is in the poem itself. Which, I am of in the opinion, is what this SB is a nod to. Combined with that which is in the poem with what FF has said about his bracelet he wants back and will pay the Finder for. It’s also aligned with about ,”I give you title to the gold”, and he wants his bracelet back. He’s promised, in other words, to buy it back from the Finder . But of course that also means- that one would have to announce its been found. Which to me is pretty much saying the same as ,” I give you titled to the gold”, you have to announce you found it. The only way you get “title to the gold” is by some form of announcement of its find. It’s not a bank note, draft or something in the chest that you have to go and cash in.

            “There are no notes to be found or safety deposit boxes to be searched” FF

            “You know, there’s another thing that I put in the chest that I’ve not told anybody about, and I’m saving it for the person that finds the treasure chest. In other words, this is not something that I put together in an afternoon. I spent a lot of time thinking about it.”FF

            As the Finder you could just be entirely quiet about it. But if you follow FF’s wishes , that ” Thing” in the chest is ,”title to the gold”.

            There’s a lot more in the chest than only gold …right? I imagine this means an exchange. That exchange value ( in gold) could very well be worth more than the perceived value of the chest contents. This SB could be meaning this.

            IMO .

  31. “Don’t make the alligator mad until you’ve crossed the river.”
    I absolutely love this saying!! It brings to mind a much more dramatic and ‘bold’ image than the saying “don’t burn your bridges…”
    Forrest, thank you so much for sharing your stories and smiles!
    Enjoy the holidays!
    Cheers! 🙂

    • also… we’ve got the buffalo nickel, the “white” buffalo on the Yazzi doll and now Snyder TX which was named after a buffalo hunter…

      • Yep, good fined Goldilocks.
        Don’t stop the research on these SB’s. The answer Fenn already knows.

        Good luck,

  32. Just goes to show that Karma has a way of balancing things.
    Nice pistol & holster, I often wonder if things could talk what stories they would tell.


  33. Thanks, Forrest. You did a good deed to help balance that man’s karma. He was going to pay sooner or later anyway for the wrong he did to you. Glad your pistol is resting safely in its holster. Thanks for the reminder about keeping promises, lest the Ides of March come upon those who are caught unaware.

  34. Dear Forrest:

    Thanks for the Scrapbook. The holstered piece was brilliant. Which came first? 🙂 If you’re a gunslinger, it never pays to be lait. Especially if your irons.

    I don’t want to wait on the ides of March. I will fish, comrade! Even if it is ice fishing.

    Take care,

  35. Karma = Action
    “Every action, good or bad, bears a variety of fruits.”
    Something I read somewhere…

  36. One of the iconic cowboy guns of the old west was the model 1873 SAA, single action army, and the most common round used in this pistol was the .45 Colt. Colt offered other calibers such as the .38 and I believe the .32, in a short or long cartridge, but the .45 Colt was only offered in it’s current length and not a short. With the creation of the model 1911 Colt chambered in .45 ACP, automatic cartridge pistol, the 1911 Colt became commonly referred to as the .45 Colt, and because of this, the round used in cowboy pistols took on the name .45 LC, long colt, to differentiate between the two. Just wanted to share a interesting bit of history for all you history buffs out there.

  37. Here’s what I’m thinking, Forrest decides when we are two pause. But how many pawses are there in his life. Probably many.

    I’m guessing at each pause, he’s somehow reflecting, a state, of mind, that somehow captures the true reflection of the POW/MIA portion of his melding.

    Now up here in Paw Paw(2 Paws) Michigan, the kids tend to get hooked on gummy bears and then it’s off to brush their teeth. Those darn things can cause some serious cavities, if ya know what I’m sayin’. Leaves a terrible mess on the brush.

    I think I need to do some more reflecting and figure out where this movie ends. I would hope there’s a wooden rainbow at the end of it all. After all, we do need to be brave and in the wood. That darn Panda Bear could be a cause for Pandromonium and great consternation.

    I think I’m going to a matinee over the weekend. Great movies. Seen it a few times already. I wonder whom funded it? Only time will tell? I can bearly wait to find out! It’s interesting how the movie FLOWS along, pausing, and reflecting at each turn.

    IMO, Y’all need to get out to the movies!

  38. That looks lo be a perfect fit as you described. I feel the lesson here is many people don’t value honor, but those who do reap much more in the end.

    I believe I’ll go on another BOTG trip next year since it seems apparent nobody is getting it this year. My wife has said she will never bless another BOTG trip in her lifetime. I view her position untenable. She also said the other day we fight 80% of the time. I disagreed, she got heated and I think we hit 90%. I’m doing my best to adapt. Sometimes it feels like I’m navigating a booby trapped zone, but I’m maintaining a positive mindset.

    I feel the next time I go, though, I’m going to take something Forrest said to heart. Forrest has said no one will do it over spring break. I’m going to take his word on that and plan to spend more than a week. Two weeks sounds like a good amount of time be be out in nature enjoying the tranquility while trying to find the trove. Yeah that sounds really nice. I sure hope my wife doesn’t read the forums or we may hit 100% today.

  39. EID-MARCH is the day that Brutus assassined the Roman Julius Caesar. Many years ago, when was working in Numismatics, My bos showed me his original EID-MARCE coin with the 2 dagers. Thank you Mr. Fann. lots of hints and a huge clue. Shabat Shalom
    Zvia ben ami

  40. Forrest, tell us what ever happened with the T28-C you restored. Did you ever Fly it, what happened to it? Is it Still flying, or did you donate it to a museum? That would be one very interesting story to tell.

  41. April is planning far ahead for Christmas gifts.

    Last decade I had a girlfriend who decided to take pottery lessons and I got a wonky bowl for Christmas and a better cookie jar for my birthday a few weeks later. I use the bowl for my squirrels’ water and the cookie jar is in a cupboard full of strange herbal tea-bags that I received from the next girlfriend who thought I would appreciate herbal tea.

    If Algee spent a C note for each casting, he could have bought his wife a new 1967 Ford Mustang instead.

  42. What we know, and what we do not know. Forrest says that he will add $50.00 to the price of each bronze sculpture produced. The add-on is $1,500.00 ABOVE the price he would normally charge . The “casting Price” would have to be pretty high so that Bob did not notice the $50.00 “add-on” – so, let’s say that Forrest quoted a price of $350.00 each. That’s $10,500.00 for 30 small sculptures. Not bad for a “garage hobby” – 🙂 – JDA

  43. The word “promise” was in this SB 5 times. Anything mentioned more than twice is worth further exploration IMO. Not only is a promise a word, a vow, an oath, or a pledge but it can also be a legally binding agreement between two parties.

  44. Better to spend the cash than always regret the oNe that got away.
    You got em’ in the long run though, Forrest! 😉

      • That would be the hand to have and hold bold . Be a story book ending Read’EM and weep …….Talk about the one that got away …Dam*+

  45. “Don’t make the alligator mad until you’ve crossed the river.” Frankly, I hope not to make that alligator mad at all, since I may have to cross that river back and forth a couple of times. Maybe I should bring some steaks?

  46. Et tu, Forrest? Didst thou mention, ‘the idea of March’?:

    My birthday month is January. Of course my illustrious ancestor changed the calendar! Were you blaming Gaius Julius Caesar (and, therefore, me) for the extra fifties you spent on your friend, Alexandra Fechin, for those twice yearly birthday celebrations you had for her? Are you planning to find a way to take a heated cash revenge, in the form of a 30-fold multiplier? Let’s see, how much would that be? How many years did you celebrate Alexandra’s birthday, on both the Russian and Roman calendars? Are you writing this down, for when I bring you the turquoise bracelet back? Are you going to deduct that amount, when I tell you my price for it?

    We can flip a 5¢ piece for the bracelet, with the left-facing Lady Liberty on the obverse and the Roman V, surrounded by the laurel wreath, on the reverse. That would be more fitting. Do you have one of those? I mean the coin, not the laurel wreath. Julius Caesar certainly wore one of those…and I hope to, also.


  47. We all have stories of something that we learned a lesson gave a lesson.

    I too collected odd coin tokens when I was younger. One of the most sought after I chased for over 20 years. Three times I came upon them and three times I was duped out of it by other collectors.
    Over the years, I ended up finding 4 of this specific token as I amassed a huge collection.

    Fast forward a few years, I attended a collectors show. Discussion of the token opened up during lunch. 5 of 6 of those in attendance had one in their own collection and then we started to go around the table filling everyone in on who had one in the known collectors group and how many we figured existed.
    We came up with probably 10 of them known to exist.
    Then I announced well, there are 14 actually, as I have 4 of them. I sold three that day at a good price as well as a large part of my collection in the months following.

    I keep that last one in a plastic case sealed with tape. Sealed with tape because when I found number 15 token. I decided to keep them both to myself and that knowlege of number 15 to myself!

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