Another Colorado Search…


May 2020

By Richard McKeever

 

This was an extraordinary search. It had an amazing conclusion to it. Let’s start with Forrest and a few of his Scrap Books. One to start with for me was SB 214 and the sketch that was drawn in it of a leg.

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I found it to be odd for some reason I cannot name, but there was something about it that made it stand out in my mind and why Forrest would comment on it. I think it was the added lines to show muscular shape reminded me of rail roads.

The second SB was 226 about Frankie and Johnny. In this story Forrest said something very strange, he mentions the word ” Pandoroma,”. I know there is no such word, but I remembered how Forrest said he sometimes creates words to express a thought. So I looked up the word Pando and found it was the name of a particular aspen that grows only in SW Colorado, and eastern Utah. I also looked up the word, ” Roma”, turns out that was a word used for an indian pueblo, small village or town. I looked this up on Google earth and found an old little ghost town in Colorado named Pando located on US 24 north of Leadville.

The first thing I noticed was the shape of the valley.

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I also found an abandoned military base was there, Camp Hale where the 10th, Mountain Division was trained during WW2.

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While researching Camp Hale I found out about a scandalous affair there between a WAC, and a German POW. That made me think more about the song Frankie and Johnny. I also discovered that there was a tie in to SB 217 there. There were warning signs of un exploded military ammo in the area, linking to his Verdun story.

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100 1047It was here I decided to tie the poem to what I was seeing.  First was WWWH, I thought about this and thought maybe Forrest was referring to the warm feelings of friendship stopping in a war, or at the end of a town or in this case a military base. Take it in the canyon down, head to the south end of the base. NFBTFTW, I equated with a short distance past the base.PIBTHOB I theorized could either mean it was an Army base as the soldiers wore Brown uniforms, or even the Nazi POW camp as they were known as Brown Shirts. The road leading south was into the wilderness, I took as FTINPFTM. The road continued on until it ended up further on that was my TEIEDN. Off to the side was a creek I believe it was the East Fork of the Eagle, which flowed from an uphill direction, NPUYC. In that direction was a Dam and a lake, HLAWH.

While traveling in a SE direction I noticed a rock out cropping on the North side of the canyon with what appeared to be 4 alcoves in it.

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After taking out my binoculars I saw that above the alcoves were large black dots with a smaller white dot in the center. This struct me as a blaze so I investigated them. Three of the alcoves were very shallow and could not conceal the treasure chest. But the fourth hole was a small shallow cave. Large enough to conceal not only the treasure but Forrest too, if that was his choice for a tomb.

It was in this fourth cave I discovered a great find. In the corner I discovered a folded piece of paper. There was a note on it and it said, ” Congratulations You are the first person after me to search this cave after me. I did not find Forrest Fenns treasure here, but you have found mine. Good Luck and keep searching. July 7 2014.” No name on it but wrapped inside was a 2005 St Gaudens 1/4 ounce $10.00 Gold Piece.

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One Quarter oz American Gold Eagle 10 00 front

Sorry the actual coin photo is blurry but best I could get, last picture is added for clarity from the internet.

This to date has been one of my most interesting BOTG’s.

-Richard McKeever          

 

 

 

 

 

29 thoughts on “Another Colorado Search…

  1. Richard,
    Very interesting read! For quite a while I thought you and I had the same ideas on our solves. I still see a lot of similarities. Very cool story about your trip and how you put it together!! At least you didn’t walk away empty handed!! What a great find! I think I’d frame the piece along with the note! Now, I wonder who left it there?!

    TimM

  2. That is so super cool.
    I admire the searcher who was considerate enough to leave behind a momento.
    He/she knew that someday, someone would come along and find it.
    Might have taken a 1000 years.
    Question for you Richard – did you leave behind a token for those following behind you?

  3. “Pandoroma” works good for me too. You took the first part and got Pando. I will take Roma for my Indian pueblo. Yours is not far from Denver. For some reason f has used Denver as a reference for the beginning of winter. I have often gone near there to Breckenridge in November. I should give it a closer look.
    thanks

  4. Richard,
    Interesting solve.
    Its amazing two people actually had the same blaze!
    Thats pretty cool!

  5. Awesome! Let’s all stop looking for Indulgence and let’s just start leaving “gold” for each other!!!! Brilliant

    • VP,

      Not sure about leaving gold but certainly the idea of leaving notes that the area has ben previously searched may have some value to it…..

      -Ann

  6. Scrapgook 226 has a bird of a few Important colors, which colors mixed equal the color brown, and of course a unique and singular eye of the bird view, Blue, red and gold, Colorado Flag has these proudly on display, I cannot help but believe Colorado is in the hunt…

    Did anyone think about the analogy of “A bird in the hand” “Birds eye view”, simple cowboy logic says this makes sense…

    TG

    • Richard McKeever, we can all agree the white color in the flag is supposed to be snow, I left it off because of this: In physics, a color is visible light with a specific wavelength. Black and white are not colors because they do not have specific wavelengths. Instead, white light contains all wavelengths of visible light. Black, on the other hand, is the absence of visible light. The color of the bird’s eye is black, and ff said the TC is not in the sunlight, but we know that the place where it is, is in sunlight most of the day. Notice above the pyramid on dollar bills the eye, so we now ponder the meaning of the “EYE” in this the seal of CO:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Colorado

      Words on the seal mean: Nothing without the protective care of God or of nature as a spiritual power.

      NO ONE THINKS COLORADO IS IMPORTANT? THING TWICE, GOD watches over us.

      TT

  7. Cool!

    Strange that two unrelated searchers could find the same quite unlikely remote place but nobody can find the right place.

    Pretty good result. There’s some money for your pocket..

  8. Richard … interesting search, indeed. Congrats on finding a consolation prize.

    Permit me to offer a couple of suggestions on finding Fenn’s treasure, as a result of your statement: “It was here I decided to tie the poem to what I was seeing”.

    You used a number of resources outside the poem (scrapbooks, sketches) to arrive at your general area. Then, once in your area you applied poem clues to that area. That’s very common. But I would suggest it is a wrong approach. Next time, let the poem lead you to a general area.

    You quoted the folded paper you found: “There was a note on it and it said, Congratulations You are the first person after me to search this cave after me. I did not find Forrest Fenns treasure here, but you have found mine”.

    A most interesting find, for sure. But you must surely understand the implications here. Someone was proceeding more or less as you had proceeded. Given that neither of you found the chest, I would suggest that both of you were pursuing an approach that, while common, deviates from Fenn’s instructions.

    I know searchers don’t like to hear it, but when two or more searchers come up with similar solutions, it smacks of >>> group-think.

    Next time, avoid outside resources. Instead, let WWWH lead you to the general area. Then apply subsequent clues to narrow down your search.

    And second, find an UNusual interpretation of the poem’s clues (including WWWH), an interpretation unique enough to preclude the solution from likely being comprehended by other searchers.

    I would argue that one’s imagination needs to be sufficiently developed to create a poem interpretation that falls well outside the imagination of searcher norm.

    Ken (in Texas)

    • Ken, Your suggestion makes sense to a point. I think it fails though in that Forrest has already said there have been a couple of searchers with in 200 feet. I therefore must conclude that you are going to have to search where others have already been.

      • Richard … you are absolutely correct that “you [the searcher] are going to have to search where others have already been”.

        Indeed, I think there have been more than a couple of people, including searchers, within 500 feet.

        That doesn’t mean, however, that those searchers correctly identified the correct clues. They may have identified a few.

  9. Richard – Now THAT is definitely a unique BOTG story! Love it! I wonder if the searcher who came before you will reveal themselves eventually? Thanks for sharing.

    • Agreed!

      Great story and a great find! Somebody with a good heart left that coin.

    • The first clue starts with “Begin “it”
      You must solve “it” before you can solve WWWH
      The poem says Y is it.
      Y is it = Why is it
      Y t = White (eliminate the S)
      Y s = Wise
      We know Y is white and wise.
      Who is wise and white?
      Stay thirsty my friends.

  10. I have noticed traces of human activity in my search area too.
    This really bothered me at first, but now I consider it kind of a good omen that I’m on the right track. Also, Quaking aspen are also called “Pando”. (https://dalneitzel.com/2019/01/19/pandome/)
    That gold Eagle is a nice bonus. It’s worth $450+.

  11. So, what intrigues me is that the one who left the 2014 note was at the location prior to the SBs used here correct? So how did the previous solver arrive at the same spot? That’s the real question isn’t it?

    -Ann

    • Ann I have no idea how they found the spot. I can inly relate what lead me to the spot. When I find several coincidences in the same location that relate to several different stories, I feel obliged to investigate the area, when the clues of the poem could be a match.

      • Richard,

        That is what makes the story interesting to me. We know how you arrived there, but how did someone else arrive at the same spot without the information available to you that you used. Doesn’t it make you wonder what led them to the very same spot without the same means?

        It wouldn’t really matter if your purpose was not the same. I am sure others have been where you went. But two entities proceeding with the same purpose at very different times arriving at the same spot/conclusion one of which used information available only after the earlier searcher had been to this spot, that is intriguing.

        It would be different if you had stumbled across the same method as the earlier searcher. Like water droplets that find themselves in a similar chute down a car window in the rain. But yours is like the ends of two such chutes meeting at the same end point, six years after the first. Something to ponder I suppose.

        All IMO.

        -Ann

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