I’ve listed some things that may or may not help some of you:
What we are taking as fact:
♦Located above 5,000 ft and below 10,200 ft.
♦At least 8.25 miles North of Santa Fe, New Mexico
♦Not in grave yard
♦Not in out house…..not associated with a structure
♦Not in a mine, tunnel, or cave
♦Where warm waters halt is not a dam.
♦Chest and contents weigh 42lbs. (Fenn said 44lbs. in one email, but has said 42 several other times)
♦Chest is 10x10x5 inches and made of Bronze
♦Forrest published a map in his book Too Far To Walk and told us the chest is hidden somewhere on that map
♦The treasure is in one of 4 states: Montana, Wyoming, Colorado or New Mexico
♦“Begin it where warm waters halt” is the first clue
♦Don’t go where an eighty year old man couldn’t go
♦Not associated with a structure……what does “associated” mean?
Def: Connect (something) with something else because they occur together or one produces another Does this rule out it being in town? Could it be in a front yard, park, Memorial, etc. etc.; as long as it is not in a structure?
♦Seasonal search: Since it’s above 5,000 ft. just about all of the search area will be impacted by some snow. As the elevation increases the “search season” decreases.
Fenn has said:
♦ There are nine clues in the poem.
♦ Start at beginning
♦ Q: Will the poem lead you to the treasure? “Yes if you know where to start.”
♦ Clues in consecutive order
♦ Don’t mess with my poem
♦ “Some folks correctly mentioned the first two clues to me in an email and then they went right past the other seven, not knowing that they had been so close”.
♦ People have been within 500’ of the treasure
♦ “Some of the searchers have been within 500 feet I know”.
♦ “Searchers have been within 200 feet”. Huffpost interview 02/04/15
♦ He never said it was buried (he never said it wasn’t)
♦ “The person who finds the treasure will have studied the poem over and over, and thought, and analyzed and moved with confidence. Nothing about it will be accidental”.
♦ “I said on the Today show that the treasure is not associated with any structure. Some people say I have a desire to mislead. That is not true. There are no notes to be found or safety deposit boxes to be searched. The clues can lead you to the treasure, and it will be there waiting when you arrive.”
♦ Q: Are there clues in the TTOTC book? “Yes, because the poem is in the book.”
♦ Q: Are there clues in the TFTW book? “Yes, because the map is in the book.”
♦ Q: Are there subtle hints in the TTOTC book? “Yes, if you can recognize them.”
♦ “All of the information you need to find the treasure is in the poem. The chapters in my book have very subtle hints but are not deliberately placed to aid the seeker. Good luck in the search.”
♦ Q: Were both trips made on the same day/date? “I made two trips from my car to the hiding place and it was done in one afternoon.f”
♦ Q: Are you willing to say whether the place of the treasure chest is the same as the one where you had previously plotted to have your bones rest forever? “Yes it is. f”
♦ “There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure.f”.
♦ Q: Is the Blaze one single object? “In a word – Yes”
♦ “Playing a hunch is not worth much in the search and those who start out by looking for the blaze, are wasting their time.f”.
♦ Q: I would like to know if the blaze can be found during the day without a flashlight. “I would say yes.f”
♦ Q: Did the same 9 clues exist when you were a kid and to your estimation will they still exist in 100 years and 1000 years? “The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years but the geography probably will change before we reach the next millennia.”
Concerning the “at least 8.25 miles north of Santa Fe” clue that Forrest gave us.
The clue was originally handed out in a comment Forrest made on a story Richard Saunier wrote for his blog “Mountain Walk”. The date was April 16, 2012 when Richard published his story titled: Forrest Fenn: Land Surveyor in which Richard lays out his theory that Forrest has given us clues as to where he has hidden the chest in the form of metes and bounds. The next day, April 17th Forrest left a comment on Richard’s blog that reads in its entirety the following:
“Since Richard mentioned the olden days lets harken to 1620 when universal land measures first became law in England and America. As you rode your horse into town you had to pass 80 telephone poles in order to reach a mile because they were 1 chain apart, or 66 feet. And each chain had 100 links, if you wanted to break it down further. Road rights-of-way also were 1 chain wide. And 80 square chains made a square mile, or 640 acres – and that was 1 section of land.
But if you’d rather count fence posts you had to pass 320 in order to reach a mile because they were a rod apart, or 16.5 feet. And since everyone knew that an acre was 10 square chains (43,560 square feet) it was easy to tell how many acres were in your neighbor’s farm.
Some aspects of those measures are still in use today in the horse racing business because a furlong is 10 chains in length, or 660 feet. You should feel smarter now because that’s so easy.
If you want to apply those important figures into the thrill of the chase I will give you an additional clue. The Treasure chest full of gold and precious jewels is more than 66,000 links north of Santa Fe.”
After Forrest left that comment others did the math…
100 links = 1 chain
66,000 links = 660 chains (66,000 ÷ 100)
1 chain = 66 feet
660 chains = 43560 feet (660 x 66) = 8.25 miles
After this was posted Forrest began using the distance 8.25 miles and has since used the mileage figure many times.
Richard Saunier’s blog has been removed and then reposted…For now you can find this original post here:
Forrest Fenn: Land Surveyor