Scrapbook Two Hundred Fifty One…

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March 27, 2020

ATTENTION TREASURE HUNTERS

Because of the virus, it is time to rethink the search. In these dire times every logic and street sense says stay at home. Mayors and governors have mandated it, and so has the president. Much of the search areas in all 4 states, are closed. Because so many searchers are out of jobs they want to head out in their car and look for the treasure. I am getting many emails each day that tell me that. Please don’t do it. Hopefully by summer things will be different. Let’s stay at home and wait it out. it is really easy to be sorry, and it lasts a long time. f

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Favorite Thing Contest…

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Share Your Favorite Thing With The Blog

Take a photo of it and write a caption in 20 words or less that explains what it is.

Your favorite thing must not be alive..
No pets or children or spouses or plants…nothing alive…

Submit your photo and caption along with your blog name via email to me at:
dal at lummifilm dot com

Send it before Noon, Santa Fe time on Friday April 3rd.
I will post the photos and captions as they arrive for all to admire.
Please enter only once.

There might be a prize if someone submits something really exceptional.
I dunno what the prize might be yet…

 

Here is an example:

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Napoleonic era, infantry (ynfanteria) uniform button recovered off the wreck of the Spanish troop ship Salvador.           – dal

OK…Let’s have some fun!!! What’s your favorite thing?

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THE Theory…by Milwaukee Searcher


March 2020

By Milwaukee Searcher

 

I have had many, many theories over the past 7 and 1/2 years… but this is my most comprehensive to date. I arm chaired this theory, after many BOTG searches in NM…  for a year I studied this area, researched all i could, and drove all the way out to yellowstone- I was only able to search for 30 minutes… but that’s a whole ‘nother story… that trip will be 4 years ago this June… The more I look at this poem, the more confused I get… endless options… how to look at it, how to read it… but I’ve never been able to shake this theory-
I consider myself an architectural theorist, and have been to several spots in New Mexico, but only this location in Yellowstone.

this theory has “the” as “a word that is key”

(a key is something that turns to be unlocked)
“THE thrill of THE chase”
“some people over complicate THE complexity of THE search”
– “marry the poem to a map”
 “the poem is a map”
“imagination is greater than knowledge”   (this theory is imaginative).
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1. “alone in there” = into Yellowstone, via 89 (the northern entrance/arch)   aloNE IN THEre= NE IN THE= (turn key)- Eht ni en= 89

 

2.  begin it where: warm… take it (warm) in the cAnyon, not far- but also fAr- put in below (below means, by definition “at a later place, or after)- so, put in below- put in after.
 warM waters halt = Mammoth
 cAnyon down
 too fAr to walk
 THE HOMe of brown
 (MAAMOH-EHT)
(turn key- the- eth- maamohthe=mammoth)
3.  from there it’s no place for “the”
From THEre it’s no place for the …
 THE end is…
 THEre’ll be no paddle…
 JusT HEavy loads
the home of Brown is created by #3-  an F forming (effort/F fort), representing some still standing buildings of the CCC (the old Glen Creek CCC, now the YCC)
 CCC boys were known as the “khaki kids”- khaki=brown.  more on CCC later- but keep in mind    mY SECret=ycc, quest to cease, all to see(k)
 ***in this theory, “the end” is referring to the cold, the wood, the gold
 I’ll get to this later
4. There’ll be-  aLL and listen good
 wiLL BE worth…
 (trail to the end at southern end of lake?- this does seem to exist looking at google maps)

 

5. paddle up your creek-   I guess I took the liberty of paddling up the creek from “go”- resembling the shape of the actual Glen Creek- Go, marveL, quEst, fouNd, CREEK.  – but no “the” as a word that is key, and this might just be coincidence
6. if you’ve been wise and found the blaze- “the” blaze? the F?  look quickly down… to cease… the 3 c’s in quiCkly, sCant, and Chest- a path from the old CCC to the lake- this does exist, I believe.

 

7. I guess I also took the liberty of drawing Joffe Lake- following the sounds of the word- Just, Already,All, EFFort (EFFort), thE (pronounced “thee” answers), and lEave.         hey, Imagination is key, right? Sort of resembles the odd shape of the lake- and whY Chest sCant= YCC (look quickly down your quest to cease- two C’s) (see picture above)
8. “take the chest” to “leave my trove”-  the from    The chesT
 wHy is it tHat
 leavE my trovE
 – you can look at my notes here, on my drawn map… possible treasure at either at I (circled)- eastern point of lake, there was a tree there, and an open old stone gate i think leading to Glen Creek trail, or at southeastern part of lake- a small trail heading east to #9- see below.

 

9.  THE cold= loc eht=locate
 THE wood= w eht=weight
 THE gold= old geht= old gate?  =log eht= log 8?
 – locate weight = 42 pounds…   something ff has been very specific about since the beginning.
 “the end is ever drawing nigh-  draw left-

 

so- yeah, there are definitely holes in this theory- but I went here- this was the place parents took their kids to learn how to fish in the 1940’s. It is not a tourist spot- you’d never know it was there, unless you just knew it was… It’s a very small lake.

 

other things to think about-

 

  • The clues did not exist when I was a kid but of most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years.

-Joffe Lake used to be CCC Lake, and the YCC did not exist-(it was the        CCC)- so here are examples of places not existing when ff was a kid, but   the places the clues refer to did exist-

 

-here is a map from 1942 proving there was a CCC where the F (fort), or my home of Brown, existed. 1942 Glen Creek CCC

 

-on p.146 in TTOTC is the infamous drawing of a man with an axe, and all the cut down trees…  the CCC was also known as the “tree army,” and there are bronze sculptures all over the US of men with axes- CCC bronzes (Even if my theory is totally far off, these bronze statues must be significant?)

 

-the CCC slogan was “We can take it.”
(And take it in the canyon down…)

 

-there was a man- an author- by the name of Datus C Proper who also grew up in Yellowstone. He was 4 years younger than ff. He died as Skippy did, in a scuba diving accident. It was only in researching my Joffe Lake area that I came across this man… one of his books was What the Trout Said I have not read it- however, he was an avid fisherman, so growing up in Yellowstone, he probably knew at least some of the spots ff did. (I did reach out and ask ff if he knew Datus Proper- he did not reply). I mention him for 3 more reasons- (besides growing up in Yellowstone, being about ff’s age, his name itself, and his death).

 

 1. I found this article- “Managing Eden”- Field and Stream (By Datus C Proper, 1993)—    It’s very important you start on P.57, then continue to P.94-   by the end of the 2nd paragraph on p. 94, you can see why finding this AFTER I had my spot… I got excited…   youth, bikes, secret fishing… he even mentions “high water” in the third paragraph.

 

 2. the quote-  there are a couple of good hints and there are a couple of aberrations that live out on the edge.” (Moby Dickens Book Shop 34:41 mark) is it possible this is why a bunch of dates are wrong/obviously changed in the postmark stamps? say his name- Datus Proper-  sounds like Date us proper-   is this like ff?

 

 3.”What is wrong with me just riding my bike out there and throwing it in the water high when I am through with it?” (HOD Forrest Gets Mail 10/03/2012
-the little girl in India could not get further than the first 2 clues with the poem and a map of the Rockies, because a map of the Rockies only has highway 89 and Mammoth Hot Springs… the rest is more detailed. 
 
“Your destination is small but it’s location is huge”- yellowstone is huge? Joffe Lake area small in comparison?
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without me drawing on joffe lake and glen creek, and YCC(C) and my notes- just look at the “the’s”- here is a picture of that… this could be something?    please note, “the” blaze resembles an F, and “the” end resembles an upside down F…    and i don’t think it’s an accident that “the chest” goes to “my trove”…

 

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Scrapbook Two Hundred Fifty…

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March 23, 2020

It’s only sweater time in Santa Fe today, but I think it’s just a ploy that nature sometimes uses to lure unsuspecting searchers into the mountains. I know she’s planning more snow and cold weather. Last week Shiloh and one of his friends made a moonlit climb up to 11,000 feet on the local mountain, and skied down. They froze, and Shiloh’s dog said he didn’t want to do that anymore.

For those whose solve is in the north please know that West Yellowstone is expecting snow tonight and 24 degrees. That’s burr time for everything but polar bears. Let’s think about 1 June for BOTG.

With all that’s going on in this country wisdom told me not to venture outside except to get more firewood and teach Willie what “stay” means. He may be a little retarded in that area. f

 

 

 

 

The Fox and Hounds…

March 2020
by Muset

 

Here is an exercise for anybody who wants to play with anagrams.  The original poem line is “begin it where warm waters halt.”  Try and find an anagram for that line, given the context of the following story.  Don’t worry about punctuation.  If you get it correct, I think you may also learn the key word.

Back in 2018 I took vacation to London to see some of the many museums that I hadn’t yet visited.  One of those places was the Imperial War Museum and they had a special area reserved for displaying the medals and short biographies of many of the Victoria Cross medal recipients.

Philip Neame was born 12 December, 1888 in southeast England when Jack the Ripper was terrorizing east London .

Neame joined the Royal Engineers in 1908 and found himself in the French trenches during WWI.  He set about improvising hand grenades from jam jars, scrap metal and gun cotton.  

He received the Victoria Cross, among other honours, for single-handedly fending off a German counter-attack with field-improvised grenades in 1914.  

He won an Olympic gold medal in 1924 for a sharp-shooting-on-the-move event called the Running Deer.  The Olympic medal was not in the display cabinet but there were seventeen other medals in addition to the Victoria Cross packed in there.

In February of 1940, Philip was posted to Egypt and Trans-Jordan as a high-ranking division commander.  The Suez Canal was a very strategic British asset, being the main trade route to its imperial possession India.  The Red Sea is tropical but the Mediterranean is several degrees colder.

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There are military bases are along the canal.

Things were going well for the Allies in North Africa until Marshal Erwin Rommel, the “Desert Fox,” arrived at Tripoli, Libya, in February of 1941 with two tank divisions.

Unfortunately for Philip, he was one of three generals among thousands of his men in the armoured division and Australian division all captured in Libya by Rommel’s Deutsches Afrika Korps (DAK) in April, 1941.  The actual German commander who captured them was Gerhard von Schwerin.  The other two captured generals were John Combe and Richard O’Connor.

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The three captured British generals were each in their several armoured command vehicle, the AEC (Associated Equipment Company) “Dorchester,” nicknamed after the famous Dorchester Hotel in London because they were so capacious and comfortable.  Marshal Rommel liked those vehicles so much he used them for himself and his own staff.  The Germans renamed those armoured beasts DAK “Mammoth”.  The fox was dressed like the hound.

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A Dorchester/Mammoth over-painted with the German cross.

 Incarcerated in Italy near Florence, the British generals spent seven months constructing an escape tunnel along with their new prison friends Brigadiers James Hargest and Reginald Miles of New Zealand, and Sir Adrian Carton de Wiart, who also had a Victoria Cross medal from action in 1916 France.

The two New Zealanders made it safely to Switzerland, but the four Britons were all recaptured within a fortnight and reunited in their prison at Castello di Vincigliata near Florence with a month-long solitary penalty.

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Castello di Vincigliata– Gaoler to the rich and famous.

Erwin Rommel’s final North African offensive had failed only a few weeks earlier in March, 1943, even with the addition of new Tiger tanks of the 501 Panzer Division joining in November, 1942.  Rommel was reassigned to Greece and then France.

Incredibly in August, 1943, Sir Adrian Carton de Wiart was escorted from prison to Rome on the orders of the Italian King and Prime Minister to be the messenger to Britain concerning Italy’s desire for an armistice with the Allies. 

The September 3, 1943 Italian Armistice lead to Neame’s release into the Nazi-held countryside with companions Combe, O’Connor and Marshal Owen Boyd.  They made their way just over a hundred miles to the coast near Rimini.  Combe joined the local Libero partisans while the rest hired a boat making it to Allied-occupied territory at Termoli in December, 1943.  

Combe made it back to Britain in May, 1944.  That same month Erwin Rommel joined the resistance against Hitler, which failed in July and sealed his fate.  He accepted the offer of suicide to spare his family.

Sadly, Marshal Boyd died from a heart attack in August, 1944, at least at home in London.

Gerhard von Schwerin went on to survive Stalingrad with great honours and then Aachen with heroism by trying to spare the civilians and architecture of that immensely important historic town.  He was later captured in Italy by the British forces in April, 1945 and released two years later after the war.

Philip Neame was appointed Lieutenant Governor of Guernsey in August 1945 and knighted in 1946, among many other honours.

Nobody knows what happened to the three DAK Mammoths but they were probably abandoned somewhere out in the Sahara Desert, broke down and no fuel.

-by Muset

 

 

 

 

The First Stanza…

The first stanza of the poem is:

As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.

Is Forrest writing about the place he hid the chest?
Or perhaps the place where warm waters halt?
Or does this stanza hint of something else?

This page is for discussions about the first stanza of the poem and its meaning.

Scrapbook Two Hundred Forty Nine…

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Forrest and Willie at home

Yesterday it was 61 degrees in Santa Fe so Willie and I took a 45-minute stroll around the yard. The cottonwoods and willows were turning green on the limb ends and our daffodils were yellow with long, green stems. They’re the first flowers in our yard to smell like promise. The warming sun felt really nice.

Things are tough down town and around the country, so my family is hunkered down with books aplenty. I may even read Journal of a Trapper again. We are almost completely staying-at-home folks for a while.

During my almost 90 years I’ve seen the Great Depression, a few wars, and the Aids epidemic. They were all terrible and for many long months some folks thought they were world-ending events. But they weren’t. We worked our way through them by banding together and gutting down.  We’ll do the same with this virus thing too. That’s why I’m so optimistic about the future.

It’s time to take another stroll around the yard. Willie just heard me think that and his tail started wagging. “C’mon Willie, let’s go. f
 

 

 

 

Poetry Page XIX…

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The chase certainly has inspired some great poetry…

Here is page xix for poetry about the chase, Forrest or any other Thrill of the Chase related topic. I am hoping poets will create new poetry and place it on this page.

If you would like to peruse the  verse on the first page of poetry click HERE.

Second page is HERE

Third page is HERE

Fourth page is HERE

Fifth Page is HERE

Sixth Page is HERE

Seventh Page is HERE

Eighth Page is HERE

Ninth Page is HERE

Tenth Page is HERE

Eleventh Page is HERE

Twelfth Page is HERE

Thirteenth Page is HERE

Fourteenth Page is HERE

Fifteenth Page is HERE

Sixteenth Page is HERE

Seventeenth Page is HERE

Eighteenth Page is HERE

Thanks

dal…

Feather Art…

March 2020
by dal

 

cake 1Those of us that attended Fennboree 2019 will remember Patty (Patricia Marin Miranda) and her lovely (and delicious) Treasure Chest Cake.

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Patty and Forrest with “THE” cake at Fenboree 2019

It turns out that Patty is accomplished at more than one art form. In addition to being a talented cake artist she is also an artist working in the traditional form of feather painting as practiced in her native country, Costa Rica.

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The Taos Pueblo as painted on feathers by Patty.

Patty playfully calls herself the “Lead Costa Rican Searcher”, and along with her S.O. Paul, they have been on the chase for Forrest’s chest for a couple of years now. They decided to move to Santa Fe after searching in NM, being drawn to the creative and spiritual atmosphere and then visiting on their trek to Fennboree 2019.

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But the newest event in their life is the opening of a small gallery and studio called “Marin” on Canyon Rd. in Santa Fe where Patty creates and shows her beautiful feather art.

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Patty is having the Grand Opening and Exhibition of her gallery on March 27th. Pretty exciting. Congratulations and Good Luck Patty!!!

The chase has spawned another great human story.

You can find out more about Patty and her art and the fascinating history behind feather painting on her gallery website HERE.

I can’t speak for you but I know the next time I am in Santa Fe I plan to stop by and say hi to Patty and Paul and take a closer look at her feather art and maybe talk a bit about “treasure hunting”.

By the way, you can look at more photos from Fennboree 2019 HERE.

-dal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Chroma…

March 2020

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Ansley was introduced to the Chase while desperately ill. Seeking the treasure helped give her a desire to live, The chase gave Ansley energy and enthusiasm and enabled her to fight for her life. She had about given up. Forrest’s story inspired her and she felt deeply connected to his tale. She went on countless BOTG trips.

Because he inspired creativity, she decided to write a story. Forrest, when Ansley asked him for advice, said “ well, finish it! “  So, she did. It is a wild ride and a fanciful interpretation of the hunt. Though Ansley used his name, Forrest approves of the story and actually really enjoyed it.

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The Chroma is available through Amazon Books:
https://www.amazon.com/Chroma-Ansley-Ray/dp/0692362487