What Are We Looking For?…


by Seeker


What are we looking for?
Craig, there is no substitute for thinking and planning and observing and looking at maps, unless it’s the desire to keep it simple.f

Many want to believe we are only looking for a 10” sq. piece of realty, I can’t disagree more.

We have been told; Forrest knew where he wanted to hide the chest… in a place he feels, is special to him. We have been told that without the first clue we have nothing… might as well stay home. I believe the first clue is this place Forrest is referring to. For this idea to be true, one needs to consider the possibility that; not only do the remaining clues revolve around the first and are within the location of the first clue… but also the possibility the trove is within the same location.

For clarification; “Location” is meant as an area vs. “Place” being a position within a location. However, “place” has other meanings and usages that I feel are being used in the poem.

With these thoughts in mind… a particular reading of the poem appears. We know the first clue is represented by the line “Begin it where warm waters halt” Then we have “And take it in the canyon down” For the idea that WWsH is Forrest “special place” the wording or phrasing of “take it in” [ by definition of; ‘take something in’ ] means to see something, to view, to gaze at… But now we have to consider the line “Not far, but too far to walk” Lets break this line down… “Not far” is seemingly self-explained… Something that is not far [distance away] and more than likely, seen from where the viewer/searcher is.

“but too far to walk” – “But” seems to imply [ one definition] excluding, ‘used to indicate the impossibility of anything other than what is being stated’ In this case, the use of “but” is telling the reader to exclude the movement of walk or walking as something that should be done… There is no movement of a searcher thus far in the poem, or don’t walk away from this clue.

“Put in below the home of Brown” – This is the last line in this stanza, and a stand-alone sentence. I believe this was deliberately set this way. The perceiving lines implant the notion that a searcher is at the first clue’s reference, is to view something, in or down in a manner involving said canyon… with no movement of a searcher being described by the poem. “Put in” acts the same as “take it in” – to look… put in, set your eyes upon… and I think is the beginning of the observational part of the solve.  {You may not like the usages of these words and phrases in this manner… yet, those are the definitions and meanings, in plain English}

Should a searcher discover the reference of hoB… the idea is; to look below this reference, while being consistent with the method of what the poem might be relaying to this point.

~ Summary of stanza 2; Be at WWsH location, view and/or observe the place of CD [a direction] and locate the hoB reference… [which might only be seen ‘correctly’ from ground level].

While a searcher has not left the location of the first clue at this point… found hoB… most likely by use of imagination of the land feature… we come to stanza 3 and what this stanza might imply the planning part of the solve.

Most readers / searcher automatically refer this stanza as more movement through the landscape [stomping point to point of hopeful clue references by the possible misinterpretation of “take it in”]. I believe this is where most, if not all, left the poem, line of thinking. The word “Place” in the line “From there it’s no *place* for the meek” might not be referring to a place / location, but rather, “a situation” [Place definition; put in, cause to be in a particular position or situation] a searcher is now presented to be in, to finalize the task. This *place* “situation” is needed to be understood as; what is expected of a searcher to do. I believe this is indicated by a later line in the poem; “Your Effort will be worth the cold…” [possibly in the form of a hint].

In the simplest of ideas / terms… cold is of a change in temperature and/or of emotion. Both of which I think is meant for the line “FTINPFTM”. The cold of the night [compared to; day / sunshine] and a situation a person who is meek, timid, unfamiliar with, being alone in the mountains at night. This same line of thinking can also be reference by “If you are brave and in the wood”

The line “The end is ever drawing nigh” would reference the end of the night and the new day on the rise. This might be in reference to the idea of “hint of riches new and old”… out with the old and in with the new [day], idea. As well as the thought and Elliot’s quote, * …to know the place for the first time* This brings us to the line “There’ll be no paddle up your creek” In this line I believe the intent is to explain a specific time of year when the correct solution can be “complete ( completed?). {Yep, I know, that’s won’t go over well with most. But you have to ask, why fenn followed his own created clues?}

We have thus far, the notion of a situation is; an overnight stay in the RM’s, a morning sunrise, however, we may need to know when to view this… on what day… to make the poem/clues lead precisely to the hidey spot. The Summer month of June is known for the Summer Solstice… in the book [TTOTC] June never got paddles because she was always right- a subtle hint? Not intended, but will help?] June is the correct month to “complete” the poem. I think the poem relays that we have now discovered why hoB, if known of, would lead right to the chest… hoB is the blaze. An object, that it utilized with the morning sunrise on the first day of Summer. “IF you’ve been wise and found the blaze, Look quickly down, your quest to cease, But tarry scant with marvel gaze…”

The above section of stanza 4 seems to imply we do just that… Look in quickly [as time related action] down [ below the hoB/the blaze] for our quest to be “completed?” – But tarry [linger] scant [a small amount of time] with marvel gaze [ gaze meaning; look steadily, observe, to “study”] … just take the chest and go in peace.

By now some might be asking about the line; “Just heavy loads and water high” This line I believe revolves around the entire concept of WWsH and hoB. HoB references heavy loads and water high references WWsH. Whatever these physical land features are… the poem is seemingly built / designed around “just” them… Forrest’s special place.

In summary: Learn/discover this location of all the clues is first and foremost [The question is; how do we learn this?]. WWsH is the critical clue in the “action” of “finding” the blaze and resting place of the chest… “all the information to *find* the treasure is in the poem”.

HOWEVER… we have been warned that this process of *finding* the chest is not going to be direct without “certainty of the location beforehand”
(TFTW – Statement made on map insert)

These two comments are not one in the same. While we need WWsH to get us closer to the chest… but we need to know where to find the clues first. The two comments, while separate, work hand in hand to find the correct search location and the correct WWsH out of the many.

~ Locate/learn where the location of all the clues are at, find WWsH by learning of this location, view in the direction of the canyon-down, spot below the hoB, observe the morning sunrise of first day of summer, watch the shadow of the blaze being cast to the hide….

Note; “begin IT” is the catch 22… in this theory, IT refers to what is expected of the searcher. IT refers to “observing and planning” for. *** begin observing where warm waters halt ***

Conclusion; No one, not little Indy, a boy from dad’s hometown or someone from anywhere Earth… “cannot get closer than the first two clues” using a map or GE [the book, GE and/or a good map get us to this point].

A searcher must be on site to *complete the poem*[ Marry the CLUES to A PLACE on a map] and this might have been the same for Forrest… he completed his blueprint [from memory] by following his own created instructions / clues / blueprint.

He completed all the ingredients to now, hide the trove, where his clues took him… to a 10” spot within his special place.








Marvel Gaze…the song


by Forrest Black


Forrest Black sent me this song he recorded with his wife in Germany. It is their musical interpretation of the poem. I don’t know if they live near the Black Forrest. He did mention that he has not been able to search for the chest yet. The song is titled “Marvel Gaze”.

Turn your sound on and click HERE to listen to their song.